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So I currently live in NC on Camp Lejeune, but my home of record is NY. I am a 21 year old Marine with a clean record. I took the concealed carry course and began filling out all the paperwork. Once I paid over $165 for the course and local background check, I go to meet with the sheriff who handles the applications. He immediately had an attitude with me, asked if I sent off the previous home of records background check. I said no I thought you had to sign it first. More attitude, then asked where my home of record is, told him NY, then he said I can not get a concealed carry because I am from NY. This does not make any sense because I have been living in NC for 3 years and live on base. Base had signed off that I lived here and that this was my current residency. Any ideas on what I can do? No where in the documents does it say that because my home of record is from NY means I can not get a permit. I think he just thought I was some young punk trying to get a gun, which is bull but let me know what you think.
Ain't fair. You've more than earned your "right to carry". I feel your pain as there is no Right to Carry here in NJ.
I had sort of a similar thing many years ago.
Military personnel under orders are not considered residents of the state they are stationed. That's why "Home of Record" in your SRB is so important.
Usually, this only comes up for tax purposes, although there are several good and bad things...
Here's an example... While stationed at Pendleton, I drove a car with expired tags for two years. Why? Because my home of record was NC. At the time (1975-77) North Carolina wouldn't renew a tag until you had an inspection. My car was in California, and I couldn't be expected to drive home to get it inspected. Since I was a non-resident of Calif., I was allowed to wait "until I had the opportunity" to get it inspected. Which meant no penalty for tax or tag as long as I was stationed across country. I could have gotten a Calif. plate, but I didn't have to. I believe they closed that loophole some years back.
As far as local law enforcement denying this, they are within their rights, but they could issue one. One big detractor would be you giving an on-base address versus a residence in town. Also, what state is your driver's license from? That's a biggie.
I had an issue with buying a pistol in another state while I was stationed there. I had an Alabama license from when I was in school there, and was transferred to Cherry Point. My home of record was NC, but I couldn't buy a pistol in my own state until I got a NC license.
My license is NY, though my wife just scored a really good job here on base as a civilian, I get out in 9 months but looks like we will be staying in the area so I guess I will just get a NC driver license and transfer my home of record. Thanks!
congrats on your wife's and your success
and good luck with your permit
Good luck mcturkey, there's plenty of good hunting and fishing in NC and the cost of living is a bit better than here in the Northeast. There's worse places you could be relocating to. Hope you catch a break with the permit!
I figured the license was part of it. Then they really are following the law by denying the permit. That's a drawback of being moved around the country.
One thing... if you change your residency before you are discharged you lose a bit of cash. Upon discharge, from wherever you are, you get mileage/expenses back to your home of record. That's why east coasters like being discharged from Pendleton.
Recheck the regulations, the Sheriff sounds to me doesn't like Marines! By Law, you do have the same rights as NC residents!!
Go to your Base legal office, they will know and how to take care of this. I’m willing to bet this Sheriff needs a little attitude adjustment!!
Thanks Clay, I have heard that the Sheriff department does not like Marines. Most of them are always getting into trouble. But this guy did not explain anything to me just told me to change residency and go away.
Being 2nd Generation Retired Military, I know this first hand. I have had several Law Enforcement Officers give me a rash of crap for caring concealed. I kindly reply who is responsible for my personal protection and of course the I’m god (spelled with a little “g”) I (they) know everything spews out. Then I tell them, Ok, when I see one of you getting the crap kicked out if them, I’m going to keep driving! That does change their tone a bit!!
Just remember, you’re not a home boy and because of that you’re not welcome in their county period. Perhaps you need to call the NC Congressman and Senator up. I would like to see Military installations shut down and moved just because of that. Luke AFB was being threatened to be shut down because developers where going to build houses right off the end of the runway. The City of Glendale AZ annexed the area around and the roads leading into the Base to preserve it. Glendale knows who butters their bread! Shut the Base down and the Westside of town dies!!
With all respect to Clay, the very first thing you need in any state is a valid driver's license in that state. Any state.
Military people move around a lot. Sometimes it's a hassle to keep getting a local license.
To wit... if you are in NC, you have to present an NC license for anyone to sell you a gun legally in that state. And the same goes for paperwork, like permits.
Jeff, when I was on active duty for 26 years I never had to get a new drivers licnce every time I moved, I could renew in my original state each time. In fact I had the same drivers license from Colorado with an endorsement stating It would be valid until I left the military, but after 10 years the photo no longer looked the same so I started over! :) I don't know ifits still possible because I retired 20 years ago. So it may not work now. Also I could simply renew License plates by mail.
Moishe...
Yes, there's different ways to have done it. I was just lazy about it and stingy. If I didn't have to, I didn't. I didn't renew my license during that time either.
One time I did use the system. I failed the motorcycle riding test in Cal. because I couldn't see the lines through my fairing. I didn't have access to a small bike for the test. I then went to Alabama for school. While there, I got a license with a motorcycle stamp. At the time, if you had a motorbike, Ala. would just give you the endorsement.
I then went back to Cal., and got a license because they would automatically approve one from another state. No riding test. Since then, I have kept my motorcycle endorsement through several states for 30 years... without a test.
And not to confuse anyone, but my statement above about needing a driver's license from any state means to buy guns.
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Ain't fair. You've more than earned your "right to carry". I feel your pain as there is no Right to Carry here in NJ.
I had sort of a similar thing many years ago.
Military personnel under orders are not considered residents of the state they are stationed. That's why "Home of Record" in your SRB is so important.
Usually, this only comes up for tax purposes, although there are several good and bad things...
Here's an example... While stationed at Pendleton, I drove a car with expired tags for two years. Why? Because my home of record was NC. At the time (1975-77) North Carolina wouldn't renew a tag until you had an inspection. My car was in California, and I couldn't be expected to drive home to get it inspected. Since I was a non-resident of Calif., I was allowed to wait "until I had the opportunity" to get it inspected. Which meant no penalty for tax or tag as long as I was stationed across country. I could have gotten a Calif. plate, but I didn't have to. I believe they closed that loophole some years back.
As far as local law enforcement denying this, they are within their rights, but they could issue one. One big detractor would be you giving an on-base address versus a residence in town. Also, what state is your driver's license from? That's a biggie.
I had an issue with buying a pistol in another state while I was stationed there. I had an Alabama license from when I was in school there, and was transferred to Cherry Point. My home of record was NC, but I couldn't buy a pistol in my own state until I got a NC license.
My license is NY, though my wife just scored a really good job here on base as a civilian, I get out in 9 months but looks like we will be staying in the area so I guess I will just get a NC driver license and transfer my home of record. Thanks!
congrats on your wife's and your success
Good luck mcturkey, there's plenty of good hunting and fishing in NC and the cost of living is a bit better than here in the Northeast. There's worse places you could be relocating to. Hope you catch a break with the permit!
Go to your Base legal office, they will know and how to take care of this. I’m willing to bet this Sheriff needs a little attitude adjustment!!
With all respect to Clay, the very first thing you need in any state is a valid driver's license in that state. Any state.
Military people move around a lot. Sometimes it's a hassle to keep getting a local license.
To wit... if you are in NC, you have to present an NC license for anyone to sell you a gun legally in that state. And the same goes for paperwork, like permits.
and good luck with your permit
I figured the license was part of it. Then they really are following the law by denying the permit. That's a drawback of being moved around the country.
One thing... if you change your residency before you are discharged you lose a bit of cash. Upon discharge, from wherever you are, you get mileage/expenses back to your home of record. That's why east coasters like being discharged from Pendleton.
Recheck the regulations, the Sheriff sounds to me doesn't like Marines! By Law, you do have the same rights as NC residents!!
Thanks Clay, I have heard that the Sheriff department does not like Marines. Most of them are always getting into trouble. But this guy did not explain anything to me just told me to change residency and go away.
Being 2nd Generation Retired Military, I know this first hand. I have had several Law Enforcement Officers give me a rash of crap for caring concealed. I kindly reply who is responsible for my personal protection and of course the I’m god (spelled with a little “g”) I (they) know everything spews out. Then I tell them, Ok, when I see one of you getting the crap kicked out if them, I’m going to keep driving! That does change their tone a bit!!
Just remember, you’re not a home boy and because of that you’re not welcome in their county period. Perhaps you need to call the NC Congressman and Senator up. I would like to see Military installations shut down and moved just because of that. Luke AFB was being threatened to be shut down because developers where going to build houses right off the end of the runway. The City of Glendale AZ annexed the area around and the roads leading into the Base to preserve it. Glendale knows who butters their bread! Shut the Base down and the Westside of town dies!!
Jeff, when I was on active duty for 26 years I never had to get a new drivers licnce every time I moved, I could renew in my original state each time. In fact I had the same drivers license from Colorado with an endorsement stating It would be valid until I left the military, but after 10 years the photo no longer looked the same so I started over! :) I don't know ifits still possible because I retired 20 years ago. So it may not work now. Also I could simply renew License plates by mail.
Moishe...
Yes, there's different ways to have done it. I was just lazy about it and stingy. If I didn't have to, I didn't. I didn't renew my license during that time either.
One time I did use the system. I failed the motorcycle riding test in Cal. because I couldn't see the lines through my fairing. I didn't have access to a small bike for the test. I then went to Alabama for school. While there, I got a license with a motorcycle stamp. At the time, if you had a motorbike, Ala. would just give you the endorsement.
I then went back to Cal., and got a license because they would automatically approve one from another state. No riding test. Since then, I have kept my motorcycle endorsement through several states for 30 years... without a test.
And not to confuse anyone, but my statement above about needing a driver's license from any state means to buy guns.
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