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Big Game Hunting

Go guided or Go it Alone

Uploaded on January 20, 2009

I want to go Elk hunting in the western united states or possibly Canada. Does anybody know of a good book or website that would help me to determine if its something I want to try on my own or hire an outfitter. I've never hunted west of the Mississippi so this would be a new experience but I do have over 20 years experience hunting so I'm not a novice hunter/shooter. Thanks for your input!

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from Northbound Guide wrote 3 years 1 week ago

subscribe to the "Eastmans Hunting Journal" . There is a ton of info on diy hunting on public land and many contacts for outfitters in their magazines.

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from pumakitchen wrote 3 years 5 days ago

I agree with northbound, eastmans is a great resource for hunting the west. I believe they have also written several books, like "Hunting high country mule deer." I don't know if they have one for elk but its worth a look. I think you decision to hunt with an outfitter may depend on the amount of time you can spend out here. If you have time its more realistic to pursue elk by yourself. However if time is limited an outfitter will do the scouting for you. You may also want to consider a drop camp. Alot of outfitters will allow you to use their land and camp, but don't actually guide. The price is substancially less and it will get you in elk country. One last to to consider is the size of bull you want to pursue, public land hunts are alot more work and generally contain smaller bulls unless you able to put in the time to find the big boys. Outfitters usually have the inside track to the larger bulls. Hope this helps.

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from marceaton wrote 3 years 5 days ago

Your first step should be to get a map and figure out where all the Forest Service, BLM, and state lands are to get a general idea of where exactly you can hunt. Wilderness areas offer alot of land to hike around in and a great hunting oppurtunity. I live in Montana and the Bob Marshall Wilderness, Scape Goat Wilderness, and the Anaconda-Pintler Wilderness would be some great areas to check into.

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from marceaton wrote 3 years 5 days ago

another note: you have to put in for tags early so once you get an idea of what state trips you trigger get your name in the drawings!

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from ishawooa wrote 2 years 50 weeks ago

If you plan on Wyoming remember that to legally hunt in wilderness areas you are required by the state to have an accompanying resident guide. This can be a friend or associate or my grandma but they must be there. Some folks hire outfitters but some just go with a local hunter.

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from Christian Emter wrote 2 years 50 weeks ago

I would hunt alone just make sure you get a good lay of the land and its features.

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from The Great White... wrote 2 years 48 weeks ago

I suggest reading the bible. I have tried elk hunting unguided in colorado and there are 2 things you need on your side, luck and God. But trust me it will be the greatest investment of your life if you go out there. There is nothing in the world like seeing the sun rise up over those mountain tops or the silence of the morning broken by a bugel. I plan on going back out this summer

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from s-kfry wrote 2 years 48 weeks ago

www.coloradoelkcamp.com

Don't go along and don't go with others that don't konw how to hunt elk. If you don't konw what you are doing you run a high risk of getting really hurt or dead out here.

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from s-kfry wrote 2 years 48 weeks ago

woops, old link, http://www.elkcamp.com/

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from 268bull wrote 2 years 40 weeks ago

I agree with Northbound and PumaK.. If your time frame is limited,then at the very least, a DIY drop camp would be appropriate. A guided hunt would provide the opportunity for you to learn what all is involved and prepare you for hunting on your own in the future. Whatever you decide, have a good hunt and enjoy yourself. Elk hunting is a real kick!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 40 weeks ago

Lot of good advice here. Try to get with someone who has hunted elk before and knows the land. Elk are tough to hunt on the best of days. The only places I know of that have over the counter tags are either very crowded ( CO public land) or darn few elk (Washington state), or no access to land (almost everywhere); so research and planning to draw the best tags are important. If you try to go it alone the first time, chances are that it will be a disaster or a very expensive "camping" trip. I had the good fortune of living near elk country and being able to hunt with family to get started. Join your local chapter of the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation and attend their events. You are sure to hook up with some elkaholics there!

Hiring a good outfitter is also an option. One outfitter in Montana that I can personally recommend is Chuck Rein at anchoroutfitting.com. Don't go with an outfitter without good references. Lots of bozo's out there.

Rules for successful elk hunting:

1. Hunt where there are lots of elk.
2. Hunt where there are lots of elk and you have land access.
3. Hunt where there are lots of elk and bring enough rifle.
4. Hunt where there are lots of elk and know how to shoot well.
5. Hunt where there are lots of elk and be in good shape!

See a trend here? Worked for me the last 5 out of 6 years. Elk hunting is the best there is! Mighty tasty, too!

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from knapp717 wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

If I was coming from out of state and had never hunted the area no doubt I would at least go with a drop camp from an outfitter. If you look at the cost verses how much work/time it will save you it’s an amazing deal. Your still hunting on your own you just have a knowledgeable outfitter to point you in the right direction. You will increase your odds dramatically on connecting the 1st time and then you still have the great experience of going on your own the next year and trying for one all by yourself. Just remember to check references of past clients before selecting an outfitter. Oh yea get in shape!!! No kidding, be ready to hike at least 5 miles a day with all your gear (go as light as you can) at elevations from 8,000 to 11,000 feet. Remember that not many elk live in flat areas, so all your hiking is up or down.

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from jbwill9 wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

I read the book The Ultimate Guide To Elk Hunting by Bob Robb. It was a great book for learning everything you need to know about elk hunting. There are a few chapters on using a guide but the majority of the book is on how to do it yourself. You can get the book for about tweny bucks at Amazon. It is well worth the buy and read. I suggest reading everything you can get your hands on for a couple of years. Know exactly where you want to go and what your gonna do way before you go. Get all the maps you can. Practice hiking long distances and setting up camp where you live before you go. Don't come back thinking I wish I had checked this before I went. Most of all though, when you go, don't consider not taking home meat a failure. Enjoy the country side.

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from Web7 wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

Just read alot and scout where you're gonna go. If you work hard and be smart than a self-guided hunt should pan out just fine.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

There are a few good books out on elk hunting. Zumbo's 'Elk Hunting" & 'Elk Hunters Bible', Don Laubach (who I know) and Mark Henschel's 'Elk Tactics', 'The Elk Hunter....', & 'Elk Talk' are good places to start in addition to the ones already mentioned.

You will be way ahead if you can hook up with someone who has elk hunted before or at least hunted the West for deer. Do not try this alone. At best, if you are successful, you won't get the elk out without destroying or spoiling the meat all by yourself. I was dumb on a couple of occasions and hunted the mountains alone and had a few near disasters. Not anymore. It's tough for 2 guys to get an elk out of the woods even if you know what you are doing. A near impossible task for a lone beginner.

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from huntcamp wrote 2 years 32 weeks ago

I like hunting on my own, but if new to the area and do not have time to scout. It would be nice to have someone at least point the way. In big country you should not go alone. Whether guided or just with pals. Just make sure you know how to pack the animal out and how to stay safe.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

If your going in the high Mountains, DONT GO ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!! You may be in Really good shape and all that, BUT if you break a leg, and cannot walk out you will die alone! Go with a guide or at least someone who can get you out.

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from tom donohue wrote 2 years 28 weeks ago

what do you have to trade? folks who hunt elk are generally well equiped to do so. network with them. offer a hunt in your neck of the woods for the opportunity to hunt with them. we all want to make new
friends and elk hunting is a great way to do it; and there are many ways to get at em. so what are you knowledable about. hogs, whitetails,
good fishing opps in your territory. its all there for us to swap.
good luck.

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from Northbound Guide wrote 3 years 1 week ago

subscribe to the "Eastmans Hunting Journal" . There is a ton of info on diy hunting on public land and many contacts for outfitters in their magazines.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 40 weeks ago

Lot of good advice here. Try to get with someone who has hunted elk before and knows the land. Elk are tough to hunt on the best of days. The only places I know of that have over the counter tags are either very crowded ( CO public land) or darn few elk (Washington state), or no access to land (almost everywhere); so research and planning to draw the best tags are important. If you try to go it alone the first time, chances are that it will be a disaster or a very expensive "camping" trip. I had the good fortune of living near elk country and being able to hunt with family to get started. Join your local chapter of the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation and attend their events. You are sure to hook up with some elkaholics there!

Hiring a good outfitter is also an option. One outfitter in Montana that I can personally recommend is Chuck Rein at anchoroutfitting.com. Don't go with an outfitter without good references. Lots of bozo's out there.

Rules for successful elk hunting:

1. Hunt where there are lots of elk.
2. Hunt where there are lots of elk and you have land access.
3. Hunt where there are lots of elk and bring enough rifle.
4. Hunt where there are lots of elk and know how to shoot well.
5. Hunt where there are lots of elk and be in good shape!

See a trend here? Worked for me the last 5 out of 6 years. Elk hunting is the best there is! Mighty tasty, too!

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from pumakitchen wrote 3 years 5 days ago

I agree with northbound, eastmans is a great resource for hunting the west. I believe they have also written several books, like "Hunting high country mule deer." I don't know if they have one for elk but its worth a look. I think you decision to hunt with an outfitter may depend on the amount of time you can spend out here. If you have time its more realistic to pursue elk by yourself. However if time is limited an outfitter will do the scouting for you. You may also want to consider a drop camp. Alot of outfitters will allow you to use their land and camp, but don't actually guide. The price is substancially less and it will get you in elk country. One last to to consider is the size of bull you want to pursue, public land hunts are alot more work and generally contain smaller bulls unless you able to put in the time to find the big boys. Outfitters usually have the inside track to the larger bulls. Hope this helps.

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from marceaton wrote 3 years 5 days ago

Your first step should be to get a map and figure out where all the Forest Service, BLM, and state lands are to get a general idea of where exactly you can hunt. Wilderness areas offer alot of land to hike around in and a great hunting oppurtunity. I live in Montana and the Bob Marshall Wilderness, Scape Goat Wilderness, and the Anaconda-Pintler Wilderness would be some great areas to check into.

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from marceaton wrote 3 years 5 days ago

another note: you have to put in for tags early so once you get an idea of what state trips you trigger get your name in the drawings!

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from The Great White... wrote 2 years 48 weeks ago

I suggest reading the bible. I have tried elk hunting unguided in colorado and there are 2 things you need on your side, luck and God. But trust me it will be the greatest investment of your life if you go out there. There is nothing in the world like seeing the sun rise up over those mountain tops or the silence of the morning broken by a bugel. I plan on going back out this summer

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from s-kfry wrote 2 years 48 weeks ago

www.coloradoelkcamp.com

Don't go along and don't go with others that don't konw how to hunt elk. If you don't konw what you are doing you run a high risk of getting really hurt or dead out here.

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from 268bull wrote 2 years 40 weeks ago

I agree with Northbound and PumaK.. If your time frame is limited,then at the very least, a DIY drop camp would be appropriate. A guided hunt would provide the opportunity for you to learn what all is involved and prepare you for hunting on your own in the future. Whatever you decide, have a good hunt and enjoy yourself. Elk hunting is a real kick!

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from knapp717 wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

If I was coming from out of state and had never hunted the area no doubt I would at least go with a drop camp from an outfitter. If you look at the cost verses how much work/time it will save you it’s an amazing deal. Your still hunting on your own you just have a knowledgeable outfitter to point you in the right direction. You will increase your odds dramatically on connecting the 1st time and then you still have the great experience of going on your own the next year and trying for one all by yourself. Just remember to check references of past clients before selecting an outfitter. Oh yea get in shape!!! No kidding, be ready to hike at least 5 miles a day with all your gear (go as light as you can) at elevations from 8,000 to 11,000 feet. Remember that not many elk live in flat areas, so all your hiking is up or down.

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from jbwill9 wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

I read the book The Ultimate Guide To Elk Hunting by Bob Robb. It was a great book for learning everything you need to know about elk hunting. There are a few chapters on using a guide but the majority of the book is on how to do it yourself. You can get the book for about tweny bucks at Amazon. It is well worth the buy and read. I suggest reading everything you can get your hands on for a couple of years. Know exactly where you want to go and what your gonna do way before you go. Get all the maps you can. Practice hiking long distances and setting up camp where you live before you go. Don't come back thinking I wish I had checked this before I went. Most of all though, when you go, don't consider not taking home meat a failure. Enjoy the country side.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from huntcamp wrote 2 years 32 weeks ago

I like hunting on my own, but if new to the area and do not have time to scout. It would be nice to have someone at least point the way. In big country you should not go alone. Whether guided or just with pals. Just make sure you know how to pack the animal out and how to stay safe.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from ishawooa wrote 2 years 50 weeks ago

If you plan on Wyoming remember that to legally hunt in wilderness areas you are required by the state to have an accompanying resident guide. This can be a friend or associate or my grandma but they must be there. Some folks hire outfitters but some just go with a local hunter.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from s-kfry wrote 2 years 48 weeks ago

woops, old link, http://www.elkcamp.com/

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from Web7 wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

Just read alot and scout where you're gonna go. If you work hard and be smart than a self-guided hunt should pan out just fine.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

There are a few good books out on elk hunting. Zumbo's 'Elk Hunting" & 'Elk Hunters Bible', Don Laubach (who I know) and Mark Henschel's 'Elk Tactics', 'The Elk Hunter....', & 'Elk Talk' are good places to start in addition to the ones already mentioned.

You will be way ahead if you can hook up with someone who has elk hunted before or at least hunted the West for deer. Do not try this alone. At best, if you are successful, you won't get the elk out without destroying or spoiling the meat all by yourself. I was dumb on a couple of occasions and hunted the mountains alone and had a few near disasters. Not anymore. It's tough for 2 guys to get an elk out of the woods even if you know what you are doing. A near impossible task for a lone beginner.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

If your going in the high Mountains, DONT GO ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!! You may be in Really good shape and all that, BUT if you break a leg, and cannot walk out you will die alone! Go with a guide or at least someone who can get you out.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Christian Emter wrote 2 years 50 weeks ago

I would hunt alone just make sure you get a good lay of the land and its features.

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from tom donohue wrote 2 years 28 weeks ago

what do you have to trade? folks who hunt elk are generally well equiped to do so. network with them. offer a hunt in your neck of the woods for the opportunity to hunt with them. we all want to make new
friends and elk hunting is a great way to do it; and there are many ways to get at em. so what are you knowledable about. hogs, whitetails,
good fishing opps in your territory. its all there for us to swap.
good luck.

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