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Deer Hunting

Deer populations are low

Uploaded on December 02, 2009

Im starting a movement to not shoot any antlerless deer in wisconsin in 2010. I am sick of the DNR decimating the state's deer herd, and i am sick of getting skunked. The DNR has forgotten that WE control the herd, not them. Collectively, we spend hundreds of thousands of hours in the woods-more than any paper-pusher in madison who is making these laws.

anyone going to join me ?

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from lukem wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

I didn't shoot any this year and I won't next year. The DNR really blew it if you ask me. I've only been deer hunting for 9-10 years but this year and last year were the by far the worst years as far as deer numbers go.

I hunt occasionally up in vilas county and after scouting, a bowhunting trip and opening weekend of gun season, i saw more wolves than deer. (1-0)

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from FlyandFowlGA wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Come to Georgia....there are plenty here.... How many antlerless can a hunter shoot during a season in Wisconsin?

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from buckshot89 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

in ohio, we can shoot five does and one buck. our herds havnt been hurt, but they are actually on the rise... the numbers of hunters are down and the number of kills are down.

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from Winchester 92 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

definately. in mass ive been out again and again and although i see deer, it's nothing like it should be. I hear you loud and clear.

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from deerslayer1234 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

PA has a pretty good sized deer population. I see deer almost every time I go out into the woods. And the antler restrictions have made a very nice collection of great bucks.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Deerslayer. Agreed.

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from BrigMarine wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

on my military installation we have a 5pt min on our bucks. maybe they should do this everywhere!!!

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from chefbhaley wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

I have been hunting in counties with four-point restrictions for several years. It took a few years to see results, but I can attest for it's affectiveness now. The public land that I hunt for the firearms portion of the season is not only a four-point county (I believe the whole state has this restriction now, could be wrong), but it is also a bucks only area. Absolutely no does can be harvested at any time of year with any tag. I hunt there because due to these restrictions there are virtually no meat hunters and noone shooting at flags flying through the underbrush. This leads to a safer place to hunt and less hunters doing so...and we see lots of bucks there.

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from shane wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

I think this depends on who you ask in WI. Some say they don't see any deer, and some are shooting monster bucks as well as does. Hmm.

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from beers123 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

I think that here In Indiana they have been going gang busters on the does the last few years. This year is the worst year in recent memory that the deer on the properties that I hunt have not been around like they usually are. The problem that I see is is that you can shoot 6 does in the county that I hunt and 8 or 9 in some of the neighboring counties. Yes I believe that the does need harvested but I think that they are taking it out of control.

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from deltabuck wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Here in MS we have a 12 inch spread/ 15 inch main beam minimum. It had been a 4 point minimum until this year. We are allowed 5 doe and 3 bucks a season. And for the most part i see plenty of deer every hunt, and see really nice deer. I feel this new law will only help the year and a half- 2 1/2 bucks make it to grow a year larger and smarter, possibly becoming a trophy

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from 60256 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Deltabuck,
I am not familiar with southern states, so does that mean you can just shoot 5 does and 3 bucks, or do you need to buy tags for all of them?

Nate

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from Brittle wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

hey i dont care about other states but wisconsin no one in my family got a deer and there are 4 of us huting 8 out of9 days that only means it can rise and wolves are invading us everywhere i want a 6 day wolf season thanks that some people care about deer

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from deltabuck wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

60256, Mississippi requires no tags, i think we should move to a tag system, its just an honor system which gets abused around here alot. You can just harvest 5 doe and 3 bucks, no more that one buck and one doe in a day. all you have to have is a valid big game license. And Brittle, sounds like ya'lls numbers are way down. I would be frustrated with that much time put in the woods and no deer. Sounds like ya'll have a full blown predator problem. We have had a doe quota of 200 on the hunting club for the past few years and recently upped it to 250 on 12,000 acres. I have buddies that are scouting does like they would a Boone and Crocket buck. I have seen only 2 does to date since Oct. 1st. I agree you can over manage... But hope things look up for ya'll soon

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from 60256 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Deltabuck,

O How I would love to have an honors system! But lo, it was not meant to be. The fact is that there is too many idiots out there to abuse it (as you stated). I was unaware that there was such a thing out there, because I have grown up in an area where you NEED a tag for deer, or you are fu##ed. Pheasants there is an honors system, though.

On a different note, where does the revenue for you Game & Fish come from if all you need to purchase is a big game license? Or do the licenses cost a lot of money?

Nate

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from lukem wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

@Shane
Depends where you are in wisconsin. In one area i use to like to hunt, there is absolutely nothing. In another area where there are no wolves and QDM has been practiced for a few years, I have seen all kinds of deer.

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from shane wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

I would bet that there are a few guys that are shooting big ones as well as does, even in the places where they are "wiped out". Probably a bow hunter, too.

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from thuroy wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

It all depends on where you live. In Northern Lower Michigan people are complaining of the same problem that you are, No Deer. Here in southwest Michigan Deer can be in a over abundance, without many people taking does or lack of access to certain areas because of preserves or communitys with homes that have 5-10 acre lots that don't allow hunting. I do know that many people were pleased with the earn a buck program in Buffalo County and the same people were happy when they put it on hold.

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from Xtremebowhunter wrote 4 years 17 weeks ago

I live in Missouri and the last two years or so havent been to great. Here you can shoot unlimited does with your bow or your rifle. After gun season its pretty hard to even see any deer during daylight hours. Cut back on so many doe tags.

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from bucksnorter wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

I used to hunt in MI in the U.P. and there was at that time never a problem finding deer. That all changed when the wolves entered the deer wintering yards. Now you are lucky to see a chipmunk while out bowhunting and during the gun season you are lucky to see anything at all. Be aware WI hunters, wolves will ruin your hunting real fast!!!

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from Beekeeper wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

In Georgia we have a relatively high deer population. We have only a few counties which are not either sex for the complete season. Those are typically up in the Blue Ridge mountains. Our limit is 10 per year, you can shoot no more than 2 bucks, one must have a minimum of 4 points on one side, or you can shoot all does if you like. We no longer have tags (I sort of miss them) we record our deer on a harvest record attached to our license,

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from tripper13 wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

you should come to maryland we can shoot 36 deer 6 bucks it is ridiculous and i havent seen a deer in 3 years

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from Citori- wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

I hunt deer in South Dakota and there are 6x6 everywhere. You cant go aday without seeing a monster buck. But its a tag system and its very hard to get a buck tag my dad's gotten 3 his whole life and he has been in the draw since he was 18 now hes 47.

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

Alabama's entire game and fish commission has went to pot since we got a new boss in office.Pure stupidity is all i can say.I hate to hear about the wolves are eating up the herds,They need to allow a wolf season.

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from Dayll Flanagan wrote 4 years 15 weeks ago

I live in central alberta (canada) and our white tail numbers are down and mules are quite abundant. Although there was one big white tail buck shot this year both white tail and mule buck antlers are pretty disappointing, MAYBE just cuz i didnt get the big one.

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from backlash wrote 4 years 15 weeks ago

I have been hunting deer with bow and gun in WI for the last 25 years. The last two years have been the worst I have ever seen for numbers of deer. I agree DNR estimates and targets are way off. Although there are always going to be areas where people may see more deer than others, no one can deny that the numbers are down drastically. I will soon have sons that will want to start hunting and I am afraid it will hard to get them/keep them interested if the numbers continue to fall. The DNR is going to cut their own throat on this one, fewer hunters = fewer $$.

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from matt wasson wrote 4 years 15 weeks ago

i like shooting does they taste great! we hunt a lot of suburan areas and the population is out of whack, it is like they (deer) know where to hide, close to the house area!
I somewhat agree...the DNR does not truely understand numbers in the field, just numbers in the red/black -/ + of taxes!

I would rather take a nice doe instead of a spike!

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from Steve Marlin wrote 4 years 14 weeks ago

No, I cannot support this idea.

I love hunting deer and at the end of the season if I don't see a big buck then the next biggest doe is the next best thing.

I will do my part by shooting at least 1 coyote this year. I have my first hunt planned for Feb and March.

We have to kill what is killing the deer or the DNR models will never ever work and we will be screwed.

So instead of "no does" - everyone should instead get off their fat old TV watchin butts and kill yotes!!! Or stop hunting deer totally.

Every real Wisconsin deer hunter owes the cult of fellow Wisconsin deer hunters one coyotes scalp by the time the fawns are born.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 14 weeks ago

In NJ, If i bought all the tags and permits, I could shoot at least 6 does and as many bucks, but it'd cost me a fortune (aprox $30 per deer). I don't see enough deer in my area to justify that kind of harvest either. If i did, i'd shoot more. I'm hoping to shoot one more in Winter Bow, bringing my harvest to 2 for the season. A conservative (or responsible) harvest in my opinion.

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from tirdypointbuck wrote 4 years 14 weeks ago

In Nebraska we have so many deer, last year and the year before, we had a herd of 98 deer in a field. So we need some deer management.

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from Keith Costley wrote 3 years 10 weeks ago

It certainly sounds like you have a sad situation on your hands. And I really feel bad about that for you and other deer hunters in your state. Fortunately, we do not have the same problem in our state. According to our farmers, we have too many does. Everywhere I hunt, I see plenty of does. Our state deer herd has never been better. I would like to wish you the best in your situation.

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from shane wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

I think this depends on who you ask in WI. Some say they don't see any deer, and some are shooting monster bucks as well as does. Hmm.

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from deerslayer1234 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

PA has a pretty good sized deer population. I see deer almost every time I go out into the woods. And the antler restrictions have made a very nice collection of great bucks.

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from chefbhaley wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

I have been hunting in counties with four-point restrictions for several years. It took a few years to see results, but I can attest for it's affectiveness now. The public land that I hunt for the firearms portion of the season is not only a four-point county (I believe the whole state has this restriction now, could be wrong), but it is also a bucks only area. Absolutely no does can be harvested at any time of year with any tag. I hunt there because due to these restrictions there are virtually no meat hunters and noone shooting at flags flying through the underbrush. This leads to a safer place to hunt and less hunters doing so...and we see lots of bucks there.

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from buckshot89 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

in ohio, we can shoot five does and one buck. our herds havnt been hurt, but they are actually on the rise... the numbers of hunters are down and the number of kills are down.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Deerslayer. Agreed.

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from BrigMarine wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

on my military installation we have a 5pt min on our bucks. maybe they should do this everywhere!!!

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from Winchester 92 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

definately. in mass ive been out again and again and although i see deer, it's nothing like it should be. I hear you loud and clear.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 14 weeks ago

In NJ, If i bought all the tags and permits, I could shoot at least 6 does and as many bucks, but it'd cost me a fortune (aprox $30 per deer). I don't see enough deer in my area to justify that kind of harvest either. If i did, i'd shoot more. I'm hoping to shoot one more in Winter Bow, bringing my harvest to 2 for the season. A conservative (or responsible) harvest in my opinion.

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from lukem wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

I didn't shoot any this year and I won't next year. The DNR really blew it if you ask me. I've only been deer hunting for 9-10 years but this year and last year were the by far the worst years as far as deer numbers go.

I hunt occasionally up in vilas county and after scouting, a bowhunting trip and opening weekend of gun season, i saw more wolves than deer. (1-0)

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from Brittle wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

hey i dont care about other states but wisconsin no one in my family got a deer and there are 4 of us huting 8 out of9 days that only means it can rise and wolves are invading us everywhere i want a 6 day wolf season thanks that some people care about deer

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

Alabama's entire game and fish commission has went to pot since we got a new boss in office.Pure stupidity is all i can say.I hate to hear about the wolves are eating up the herds,They need to allow a wolf season.

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from beers123 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

I think that here In Indiana they have been going gang busters on the does the last few years. This year is the worst year in recent memory that the deer on the properties that I hunt have not been around like they usually are. The problem that I see is is that you can shoot 6 does in the county that I hunt and 8 or 9 in some of the neighboring counties. Yes I believe that the does need harvested but I think that they are taking it out of control.

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from deltabuck wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Here in MS we have a 12 inch spread/ 15 inch main beam minimum. It had been a 4 point minimum until this year. We are allowed 5 doe and 3 bucks a season. And for the most part i see plenty of deer every hunt, and see really nice deer. I feel this new law will only help the year and a half- 2 1/2 bucks make it to grow a year larger and smarter, possibly becoming a trophy

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from FlyandFowlGA wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Come to Georgia....there are plenty here.... How many antlerless can a hunter shoot during a season in Wisconsin?

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from Xtremebowhunter wrote 4 years 17 weeks ago

I live in Missouri and the last two years or so havent been to great. Here you can shoot unlimited does with your bow or your rifle. After gun season its pretty hard to even see any deer during daylight hours. Cut back on so many doe tags.

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from bucksnorter wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

I used to hunt in MI in the U.P. and there was at that time never a problem finding deer. That all changed when the wolves entered the deer wintering yards. Now you are lucky to see a chipmunk while out bowhunting and during the gun season you are lucky to see anything at all. Be aware WI hunters, wolves will ruin your hunting real fast!!!

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from Citori- wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

I hunt deer in South Dakota and there are 6x6 everywhere. You cant go aday without seeing a monster buck. But its a tag system and its very hard to get a buck tag my dad's gotten 3 his whole life and he has been in the draw since he was 18 now hes 47.

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from backlash wrote 4 years 15 weeks ago

I have been hunting deer with bow and gun in WI for the last 25 years. The last two years have been the worst I have ever seen for numbers of deer. I agree DNR estimates and targets are way off. Although there are always going to be areas where people may see more deer than others, no one can deny that the numbers are down drastically. I will soon have sons that will want to start hunting and I am afraid it will hard to get them/keep them interested if the numbers continue to fall. The DNR is going to cut their own throat on this one, fewer hunters = fewer $$.

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from matt wasson wrote 4 years 15 weeks ago

i like shooting does they taste great! we hunt a lot of suburan areas and the population is out of whack, it is like they (deer) know where to hide, close to the house area!
I somewhat agree...the DNR does not truely understand numbers in the field, just numbers in the red/black -/ + of taxes!

I would rather take a nice doe instead of a spike!

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from Beekeeper wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

In Georgia we have a relatively high deer population. We have only a few counties which are not either sex for the complete season. Those are typically up in the Blue Ridge mountains. Our limit is 10 per year, you can shoot no more than 2 bucks, one must have a minimum of 4 points on one side, or you can shoot all does if you like. We no longer have tags (I sort of miss them) we record our deer on a harvest record attached to our license,

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from 60256 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Deltabuck,
I am not familiar with southern states, so does that mean you can just shoot 5 does and 3 bucks, or do you need to buy tags for all of them?

Nate

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from 60256 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Deltabuck,

O How I would love to have an honors system! But lo, it was not meant to be. The fact is that there is too many idiots out there to abuse it (as you stated). I was unaware that there was such a thing out there, because I have grown up in an area where you NEED a tag for deer, or you are fu##ed. Pheasants there is an honors system, though.

On a different note, where does the revenue for you Game & Fish come from if all you need to purchase is a big game license? Or do the licenses cost a lot of money?

Nate

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from shane wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

I would bet that there are a few guys that are shooting big ones as well as does, even in the places where they are "wiped out". Probably a bow hunter, too.

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from lukem wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

@Shane
Depends where you are in wisconsin. In one area i use to like to hunt, there is absolutely nothing. In another area where there are no wolves and QDM has been practiced for a few years, I have seen all kinds of deer.

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from deltabuck wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

60256, Mississippi requires no tags, i think we should move to a tag system, its just an honor system which gets abused around here alot. You can just harvest 5 doe and 3 bucks, no more that one buck and one doe in a day. all you have to have is a valid big game license. And Brittle, sounds like ya'lls numbers are way down. I would be frustrated with that much time put in the woods and no deer. Sounds like ya'll have a full blown predator problem. We have had a doe quota of 200 on the hunting club for the past few years and recently upped it to 250 on 12,000 acres. I have buddies that are scouting does like they would a Boone and Crocket buck. I have seen only 2 does to date since Oct. 1st. I agree you can over manage... But hope things look up for ya'll soon

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from Dayll Flanagan wrote 4 years 15 weeks ago

I live in central alberta (canada) and our white tail numbers are down and mules are quite abundant. Although there was one big white tail buck shot this year both white tail and mule buck antlers are pretty disappointing, MAYBE just cuz i didnt get the big one.

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from Steve Marlin wrote 4 years 14 weeks ago

No, I cannot support this idea.

I love hunting deer and at the end of the season if I don't see a big buck then the next biggest doe is the next best thing.

I will do my part by shooting at least 1 coyote this year. I have my first hunt planned for Feb and March.

We have to kill what is killing the deer or the DNR models will never ever work and we will be screwed.

So instead of "no does" - everyone should instead get off their fat old TV watchin butts and kill yotes!!! Or stop hunting deer totally.

Every real Wisconsin deer hunter owes the cult of fellow Wisconsin deer hunters one coyotes scalp by the time the fawns are born.

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from tripper13 wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

you should come to maryland we can shoot 36 deer 6 bucks it is ridiculous and i havent seen a deer in 3 years

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from tirdypointbuck wrote 4 years 14 weeks ago

In Nebraska we have so many deer, last year and the year before, we had a herd of 98 deer in a field. So we need some deer management.

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from Keith Costley wrote 3 years 10 weeks ago

It certainly sounds like you have a sad situation on your hands. And I really feel bad about that for you and other deer hunters in your state. Fortunately, we do not have the same problem in our state. According to our farmers, we have too many does. Everywhere I hunt, I see plenty of does. Our state deer herd has never been better. I would like to wish you the best in your situation.

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from thuroy wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

It all depends on where you live. In Northern Lower Michigan people are complaining of the same problem that you are, No Deer. Here in southwest Michigan Deer can be in a over abundance, without many people taking does or lack of access to certain areas because of preserves or communitys with homes that have 5-10 acre lots that don't allow hunting. I do know that many people were pleased with the earn a buck program in Buffalo County and the same people were happy when they put it on hold.

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