question,The 1100 I referred to earlier was a mid '70s 20ga. and it was not the handier 20ga Lightweight. But it was very nice in the hands and to shoulder. If the 1100 Rem. 28ga is built on the 20ga lightweight receiver/action/stock design then give it a good look. If not, then I'd be concerned too, why have a 28 if its not handy and easy to carry and swing? Also mine was a beautiful gun, hard clear finish which showed great wood, I don't know if Rem. has changed the quality of wood for a cheaper stock and puts a stain over it rather than the clear sealer which allowed the grain of the wood to show thru as mine did.This is another thing to look at before you buy.Wish I could help you with the other gun your considering, but as I stated before, keep the magazine tube clean near the action (below the gas ring) and you'll have no trouble.

thanks for the responses. Ideally I'd like to buy a small frame double gun in 28, but thats not in the budget right now, so one of these two it will be. Still up in the air....It would be the 1100 no brainer for me, given my preference for supporting American craftsmen, but the fact that it is on a 20 gauge frame bothers me.

question, I'd go for the 1100 because they just happen to fit me. Stock dimensions are very important in a shotgun, plus the Franchi is ugly... my brother has one and that semi-humpback design just turns my stomach. Plus his Franchi jams. A lot. My 1100 has been fired thousands of times my myself and my children and always operates. Just my experience, maybe he got the only bad 48 AL and I got the only good 1100?

Our thoughts and thanks to the many heroic Americans who participated in D Day 1944. Sixty four years seems a long time ago, but I bet their experiences are still fresh in their minds. May God bless you all.

Off topic, but need your help w/ something. Remington or Franchi. I'm going to buy a 28 gauge, and I've narrowed it down to Remington 1100 sporting, or a Franchi 48AL. Which one would you guys choose and why???

isn't it illegal to use a club on waterfowl?

I'm so sick of trying not to offend any one's sensibilities I think I'll just put a video of myself clubbing baby seals with a shotgun barrel on youtube... Obviously the days when children went out back and wrung a few chicken's necks so the family could eat are long gone.By the way, it looked like self-defense to me officer. The goose attacked and he had no other choice but to protect himself and the lives of his fellow hunters and cameramen.

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Let's see - these guys spent how many dollars to get shotguns and then used one for a bat? Regardless, while I'm not comfortable with the sportsmanship here, I note that before your lot came here, lots of us ITI (Indns) used to net birds like this, and in the long run, the responsibility, if any, for any impropriety rests on whoever did the thing. As for PETA's - I love 'em, especially lightly roasted with horseradish sauce on a toasted bun.

Now I not only want to ban guns, but gun barrels, too. Wait, er...never mind.

I have to agree with some of the others. The clip is not in good taste.

That was too funny! For the anti-gunners & PETA, I'd just file that under Darwinism. If the bird is too silly to know any better than its days are numbered anyway. I wonder if the folks at PETA should start an anti clean window campaign during the migration seasons as too many birds hit my windows. I have to admit if that situation came upon me, I too would smack it down like a goal tending NBA player... but not with my Holland & Holland. Great post, Dave!

Del in KS...I have to agree with the Brittanies. Terrific hunters, good, gentle companions. Have had pointer and setter dogs, but always return to Brits.As to whacking something the size of geese with a thin shotgun barrel...probably not the best of ideas. Sort of like whacking bad offficials at a tennis match with a racket. Hard on the racket, and annoying to the officials. use a .45. It is designed for the job.Tom Fowler

Before I was of hunting age a buddy and I were walking in a stream and a mallard drake flushed out from beneith some low stream-side brush. It flew right over our heads and my buddy leaped up and touched its wing. Though this video takes the cake.

I found the video interesting! If you've never tried to decoy snow geese you can't fathom how amazing that video is. Once those snow's hit South Dakota and they've been hunted they are one of the toughest birds to get into your spread. Hit it right and it'll be an adventure you wamt more and more of! What is in that video is such an aberation that it is just plain fun to watch!

I agree with Jim in Mo.'s comments entirely, well put...Insofar as the whacked goose I finally am speechless with a return story since my previous mention of the bobwhite quail flyinging into the barb on a wire fence pales in comparision. I'll have to wait on another topic to bore you guys anymore.

dartwick, concerned_soldier, Bill in VaI don't blame the guy. He had the expensive tag, fair game.Snow geese are like vermin, too many of them, ruining nesting grounds in Canada and alot of sportsmen dollars are going up there to save/restore those grounds.If I'm acting/performing in a legal manner I no longer worry about what the anti's think or say. They'd spout lies even if we were angels. Screw em, their tax dollars don't help conservation.

When I have my limit (or all I care to carry), my Lab goes on the leash! He will grab a bird out of the brush unassisted.I doubt the Game Warden differentiates between shot birds and "Lab'd" birds! LOL

How did they act like "idiots"?They didnt act like the guys I hunt with and I probably wouldnt fit in well in that blind.But dont condemn them as "idiots" just because they arent like you.

I just spit coffee all over my monitor. Hope my keyboard isn't damaged. Thanks alot...

Never seen anything like that!Not sure it's something I'd do, but it seems like this goose was a cripple that maybe tried to get back up, so the ends justified the means...I've put the Joe Dimaggio on a crippled snow in the marsh before, because it was too close to shoot and too lively to grab by the neck. But I don't think I'd be real enthused about killing a healthy bird with a swipe of the gun barrel (or butt).

My Dad, Uncle, and I quail hunt a few times a year when I get a chance. On one covey they flushed and Dad shot two, and another quail went Kamikazee at my dad who was shooting a double. He swatted at him and came VERY close, but missed. We all had a good laugh.

Did see something similar once, in a South Dakota milo field loaded with pheasants, a wounded but still flying rooster couldn't get altitude, but wouldn't go down. Since he was so low the walkers and the blockers couldn't shoot, but he flew close enough to one of the blockers that he reached out with his gun barrel and knocked the rooster down. He was a tall guy which probably helped.Also once on a quail covey rise one of the birds was in such a hurry to escape he rung his own neck on a powerline and fell right at my feet.