Please Sign In

Please enter a valid username and password
  • Log in with Facebook
» Not a member? Take a moment to register
» Forgot Username or Password

Why Register?
Signing up could earn you gear (click here to learn how)! It also keeps offensive content off our site.

Discussion Topic: Minnesota Student Suspeded For Leaving Bow In Car

Recent Comments

Categories

Recent Posts

Archives

Syndicate

Google Reader or Homepage
Add to My Yahoo!
Add to My AOL

Field Notes
in your Inbox

Enter your email address to get our new post everyday.

October 06, 2008

Discussion Topic: Minnesota Student Suspeded For Leaving Bow In Car

From the Mille Lacs County Times:

A Milaca High School senior has been suspended for 10 days for having a hunting bow in his vehicle. But is the school administration following its own policies?



Keith Larson realized he had forgotten the cased bow in the back of his Ford Explorer when discussion of a recent incident in Blaine took place during his first hour economics class on Tuesday, Sept. 23. . . .

In the school’s policy regarding weapons it states under “Exceptions” that, “A student who finds a weapon on the way to school or in a school location, or a student who discovers that he or she accidentally has a weapon in his or her possession, and takes the weapon immediately to the principal’s office shall not be considered to possess a weapon. If it would be impractical or dangerous to take the weapon to the principal’s office, a student shall not be considered to possess a weapon if he or she immediately turns the weapon over to an administrator, teacher or head coach or immediately notifies an administrator, teacher or head coach of the weapon’s location.”



Keith notified the teacher first hour when he realized during the discussion that he had forgotten his bow in his truck.



Based on the school’s policy, it appears Keith should not be suspended.



However, [the school reportedly argues that Keith] doesn’t fall into that exception category because he informed the entire class and the teacher at the same time.

What do you think. Should the student be suspended?

Comments (21)

Top Rated
All Comments
from keith wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

hey this is keith the one wit the bow.i just wanted to thank all of u for being on my side in this story it is bull shit that i got suspended. and bout hunting on vacation.. i couldnt cause they took my bow so i couldnt. but dont wory some guy i have never met before raised money with his friends and is buying me a new mathews bow!!

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jack wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

The Milaca school weapons policy has a list of prohibited items. Among them: guns, ammunition, knives, blades, knuckles, chains, numchucks, ARROWS, and so on...It does not list bows. He was suspended because he had ARROWS...locked in a case...locked in his truck.Good grief.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from JohnR wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Another big one for the wonderful "zero tolerance" policy. Zero tolerance is just an excuse for administrators to avoid taking the responsibility for making a decision. Let us hope that Keith is not charged by the school resource officer as the charge is a felony. Most of the town was upset if you read some of the comments following the article.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jstreet wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Let's see, a lying crook can make millions on Wall Street or a honest kid gets suspended for telling the truth.And people wonder what the hell is wrong with our country?

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Visitor wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

ooops. I've made that mistake a billion and one times. I never figured schools had policies against "weapons" just firearms.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Mc. Squizzy wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

what the hell?! Why is he suspended?! He followed the rules. This is just teaching him to not follow the rules and not tell anyone!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from R.J. Pickens wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

The honest finish last.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from RJ wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

I remember taking archery lessons in high school,(fencing too) I guess that is not happening anymore. What this kid was "taught" is that one; if you are violating a rule, don't tell anyone!, two; If you want extra time hunting do tell someone! We have a social system in place that has one primary focus- To protect us from ourselves.and to do this, every right can be taken away, all in the name of the "public good" . but don't worry, when they get around to rewriting history of this time period, these disscussions will be edited, and no reference to our rights will be listed.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from peter wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

WHAT THE HELL HE SHOULD NOT BE SUSPENDED

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jersey pig wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

as much as i hate to say it, if he never said anything would anyone have known? sounds like the old story of no good deed (being honest and doing what you think is right when you are in the wrong) goes unpunished. all this kid is learning from this school is bad values (i.e. when you screw up, dont tell anyone and maybe they wont notice).

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Nicholas wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

If he said it was a target bow and not a hunting bow he probaly would have gotten off the hook.These schools say that they prepare kids for the real world, when all they do is ban anything that isnt butterflies and daisys singing "la dide dum"

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jack wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

I looked up the Mille Lac schools website and read their policies regarding weapons. It seems the Superintendent is granted discretion in applying penalties, and he chose not to. I would count him among the clueless. The penalty is nonsense, it's application is reckless.From the weapons policy:"Administrative DiscretionWhile the school district takes a “Zero Tolerance” position on the possession, use or distribution of weapons by students, the superintendent may use discretion in determining whether, under the circumstances, a courseof action other than the minimum consequences specified above is warranted. If so, other appropriate actionmay be taken, including consideration of a recommendation for lesser discipline."And these people wonder why home schooling is growing by leaps and bounds in this nation.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from I'm in school right now wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

First of all, he notified a teacher of his wrongdoing; he shouldn't be punished for that. Second, what is he gonna do with a bow? Take it out and shoot someone? If he's gonna do that he might as well bring a gun instead. Also, it doesn't say here but the principal actually was leaning towards expelling the kid just for having a bow. Fire the principal.Nate

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jose Hemanda wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Sounds like 10 extra days of hunting to me! Ain't nothing like a school granted vacation during hunting season.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from tomtom wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Several of my friends and I would have our bows and climbers in our vehicles during school. We would leave them in from hunting before school and then once schol got out we could head straight to the woods. Never once did we get reprimanded or in trouble for the cased bows

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Mike Diehl wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

I think whomever suspended the student should be fired from their job.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Scrap5000 wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

We should protest on his behalf!

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jstreet wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

It seems to me the young man tried to follow the rules, admit his mistake early in the day (per the rules) and it should have been over with. The teacher dropped the ball and now the kid gets kicked in the proverbial "nads" for being forthright.Gee, I wonder what the kid will do the next time he's in a similar situation? Fess up or just keep his mouth shut?I'm betting he keeps his mouth shut.Jim

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Dan the Man wrote 2 years 51 weeks ago

This is rediculous. First off, what's the problem with a bow? He ain't going to hold a class hostage with it. Second, he knew the school rule and did the honest thing and got punished for it. Then they kept the damn thing. Glad that someone decided to get him a new Mathews.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Dan the Man wrote 2 years 51 weeks ago

Fire the principle and the entire administration. Wonder what would've happened if that had been a gun.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from leifjohn wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

That's ridiculous.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report

Post a Comment

from Mc. Squizzy wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

what the hell?! Why is he suspended?! He followed the rules. This is just teaching him to not follow the rules and not tell anyone!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Mike Diehl wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

I think whomever suspended the student should be fired from their job.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from leifjohn wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

That's ridiculous.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from keith wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

hey this is keith the one wit the bow.i just wanted to thank all of u for being on my side in this story it is bull shit that i got suspended. and bout hunting on vacation.. i couldnt cause they took my bow so i couldnt. but dont wory some guy i have never met before raised money with his friends and is buying me a new mathews bow!!

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jack wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

The Milaca school weapons policy has a list of prohibited items. Among them: guns, ammunition, knives, blades, knuckles, chains, numchucks, ARROWS, and so on...It does not list bows. He was suspended because he had ARROWS...locked in a case...locked in his truck.Good grief.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from JohnR wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Another big one for the wonderful "zero tolerance" policy. Zero tolerance is just an excuse for administrators to avoid taking the responsibility for making a decision. Let us hope that Keith is not charged by the school resource officer as the charge is a felony. Most of the town was upset if you read some of the comments following the article.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jstreet wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Let's see, a lying crook can make millions on Wall Street or a honest kid gets suspended for telling the truth.And people wonder what the hell is wrong with our country?

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Visitor wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

ooops. I've made that mistake a billion and one times. I never figured schools had policies against "weapons" just firearms.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from R.J. Pickens wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

The honest finish last.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from RJ wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

I remember taking archery lessons in high school,(fencing too) I guess that is not happening anymore. What this kid was "taught" is that one; if you are violating a rule, don't tell anyone!, two; If you want extra time hunting do tell someone! We have a social system in place that has one primary focus- To protect us from ourselves.and to do this, every right can be taken away, all in the name of the "public good" . but don't worry, when they get around to rewriting history of this time period, these disscussions will be edited, and no reference to our rights will be listed.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from peter wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

WHAT THE HELL HE SHOULD NOT BE SUSPENDED

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jersey pig wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

as much as i hate to say it, if he never said anything would anyone have known? sounds like the old story of no good deed (being honest and doing what you think is right when you are in the wrong) goes unpunished. all this kid is learning from this school is bad values (i.e. when you screw up, dont tell anyone and maybe they wont notice).

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Nicholas wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

If he said it was a target bow and not a hunting bow he probaly would have gotten off the hook.These schools say that they prepare kids for the real world, when all they do is ban anything that isnt butterflies and daisys singing "la dide dum"

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jack wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

I looked up the Mille Lac schools website and read their policies regarding weapons. It seems the Superintendent is granted discretion in applying penalties, and he chose not to. I would count him among the clueless. The penalty is nonsense, it's application is reckless.From the weapons policy:"Administrative DiscretionWhile the school district takes a “Zero Tolerance” position on the possession, use or distribution of weapons by students, the superintendent may use discretion in determining whether, under the circumstances, a courseof action other than the minimum consequences specified above is warranted. If so, other appropriate actionmay be taken, including consideration of a recommendation for lesser discipline."And these people wonder why home schooling is growing by leaps and bounds in this nation.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from I'm in school right now wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

First of all, he notified a teacher of his wrongdoing; he shouldn't be punished for that. Second, what is he gonna do with a bow? Take it out and shoot someone? If he's gonna do that he might as well bring a gun instead. Also, it doesn't say here but the principal actually was leaning towards expelling the kid just for having a bow. Fire the principal.Nate

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jose Hemanda wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Sounds like 10 extra days of hunting to me! Ain't nothing like a school granted vacation during hunting season.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from tomtom wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Several of my friends and I would have our bows and climbers in our vehicles during school. We would leave them in from hunting before school and then once schol got out we could head straight to the woods. Never once did we get reprimanded or in trouble for the cased bows

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Scrap5000 wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

We should protest on his behalf!

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jstreet wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

It seems to me the young man tried to follow the rules, admit his mistake early in the day (per the rules) and it should have been over with. The teacher dropped the ball and now the kid gets kicked in the proverbial "nads" for being forthright.Gee, I wonder what the kid will do the next time he's in a similar situation? Fess up or just keep his mouth shut?I'm betting he keeps his mouth shut.Jim

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Dan the Man wrote 2 years 51 weeks ago

This is rediculous. First off, what's the problem with a bow? He ain't going to hold a class hostage with it. Second, he knew the school rule and did the honest thing and got punished for it. Then they kept the damn thing. Glad that someone decided to get him a new Mathews.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Dan the Man wrote 2 years 51 weeks ago

Fire the principle and the entire administration. Wonder what would've happened if that had been a gun.

0 Good Comment? | | Report

Post a Comment

bmxbiz-fs