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September 03, 2008

More on Sarah Palin, Moose Hunting, and Other Stuff

By David E. Petzal and Phil Bourjaily

Pregnancy seems to be a big issue right now, so I would like to state the following for the record:

For all I care, the Palins can breed like rock rabbits and Sarah will still have my vote.

No one quizzed Chelsea Clinton about her reproductive plans when her mom was in the race. How come?

I am not pregnant. Phil Bourjaily is not pregnant (at least, I assume so. We haven't talked in a while.)

As far as I'm concerned, Sarah Palin has only one flaw; she has a worse speaking voice than the aforementioned Hillary, and the tame ravens at the Yellowknife (NT) airport have more mellifluous speaking voices than Senator Clinton.

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The media, in its condescending coverage of Sarah Palin's moose hunting, don't give her the credit that she is due. Turning a moose into mooseburger is not like whipping up a souffle. Shooting it is the easy part; getting it out of the bog requires more fortitude than standing up to Vladimir Putin. Actually, field-dressing a moose takes three people: one to do the actual hacking and slashing, one to push, shove, and hold legs, and one to stand there with a serious rifle waiting for a bear to show up. Then you get to packing it out, which takes yet another two people unless one of you is Clark Kent.

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And speaking of manhandling moose meat, a while back someone asked about pack frames. The best one I've seen was the one I took to Alaska to pack out my moose--the Bighorn Pack Frame made by Wilderness Pack Specialties. It's made of some kind of super-strong polycarbonate, has an excellent suspension system, and is rated to carry 120 pounds. The price is $139 from Schnees.com.

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I would like to add a heartfelt amen to Phil Bourjaily's report on the Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company. It is truly a place of wonders. I think the nicest gun they make is their A.H. Fox reproduction, which is probably better than the original. Also, their wood room requires a whole new set of adjectives to describe. Grown men emerge from it weeping and struck dumb, and some have actually soiled themselves.

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from Rocky Mtn Hunter wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Hopefully that Palin will be our next VP and I can get a Freebie Moose hunt from her, maybe she will even guide me, as the guy in the WH now would not know a Moose from a Roadrunner. Talk of change, it will be chagne if OBAMA get to be Pres. It's sad to know what we did to the Indians who owned this land we now claim, and how we have let two other races take control of us. Come Jan. 20, will be a day that History will well remember. Kinda like Dewey did when Truman was sworn in. I yet contend that the persons running for Pres. and VP should come from each's convention and forget the Damn Electroal College and Supreme Court. Let the person with the most votes be elected, after each convention, as well as the VP. We need a new 3rd party in the running, as we have gotten away from the basics. Gonnna vote this year? Not me, I will not give up a day of hunting in the Bitteroots and buy 5dollar gas to go vote for the crumbs running.. One last, OBAMA has wished a zillion times he had chosen Hillary as his running mate. But the Hillary supporters are not all gonna move over to McCain and Palin, but enough that he wins. Nothing more stubburn that a Afro-Amer. and thats a Flop-eared mule, as I had the AA for a Neighbor and I plowed the farm with a MULE.Time to bring out the peace pipe.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

It's just fun to watch a black man justify an allegedly sexist remark... if the President can use sexist remarks can we use racist remarks? Where are the boundaries now?Besides... everyone knows who the pigs in lipstick are. Lets make a list, shall we? Rosie O'Donnell has to be tops. Barbra, Oprah, Hillary and I'm not even trying.

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from wow wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Hey Dr. Ralph-Click this link and then explain why its ok for McCain to use the phrase, but Obama can't? Seriously...please explain this to me....i'm all liberal and stupid and stuff....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMMSeriously, where are you people from? Do you just blindly follow what people tell you?It's freaking mind boggling!

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Obama's already reverting to Chicagoland Gangsta tactics... he must be scared too! Called Sarah a "pig with lipstick" and now he's making up excuses which the leftwing media is eating up like a pile of $hit and pretending to like it.

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from Joe Ray wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Before everyone gets too carried away, could we find out a little more about Sarah's moose hunting experience. A moose hunter hunts every season as much as he possibly can. How many times has Sarah gone moose hunting? How many shots has she taken and how many moose has she killed? Did she gut it and quarter it herself?Going moose hunting once does not make one a moose hunter just as fishing once does not make one a fisherman.Lets get the whole story before we fall all over the VP candidate.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Are you scared? My name was a link to Osama I mean Obama talking about his Muslim faith... ooooops (I think he meant Christian). Freudian slip?

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from Visitor wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Scott, after reading your post, you would probably be mad at me because my best friend shoots a .270 but you like a 7MM....

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from Gman wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

You're really grasping at straws now, Ralphie boy, harping on a typo. I actually started to do it in ALL CAPS to pay homage to Walt Smith, but it wasn't worth the effort.BTW, my audience is a global community of electrical engineers, mostly the guys doing theoretical networking research, so they do notice typos; they're a far tougher audience than the bozos who haven't done their follow-ups on Sally Lou Palin and her false "reforms" up in Alaska. She's just another Republican roundheel, suckling at the Federal trough. You really have to lighten up and stop taking all this stuff so seriously. You'll have a coronary before deer season.I wouldn't punch your name or your nose; for all I know, you're Buddy Hinton and you want to show me a disgusting picture. I'm a peaceful man, like Gary Cooper in High Noon.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Here's your hero spindoctor Gman... how good are you? Punch my name and start explaining.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Primitive... no coherent thought process involved, and one would think anyone that makes money writing leftwingsocialist propaganda would at least know how to spell and use proper capitalization. But then again I'm sure your usual audience doesn't notice.

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from Gman wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

The Pledge of Allegiance is pure theater.Defending an unpopular cause or person because it's a Constitutional right is another.Give me a public defender over a Plegde freak any day.

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from Jay wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Adding fuel to the fire; Obama's muslim faith interview:http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/

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from Wow wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Walt Smith-Where are you from? Because apparently the news is a bit delayed. Those "doesn't say the pledge' crap has been proven to be false.See video...of Barack saying the pledge:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD6bKaVW-lsAnd " how did they even make it to where they are feeling that way..."They got to where they are because those aren't true. Its mind bogglling how slow so many Americans can be.Get your facts straight, and then make a decision.Don't just follow like a mindless sheep.Freaking Amazing...

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from Rob in Minnesota wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Is there even any evidence that Palin ever shot a moose, or even shot at a moose? For that matter, has she ever hunted apart from a political photo-op? From what I can tell, there's no verification. It seems like people just want a new Teddy Roosevelt (in high heels), they don't care if the reality matches up with the rhetoric.

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from atmiller wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

I don't understand how the media can attack the 17 year old daughter. David Letterman attacked her, yet he has a child outside of marriage. At least the 17 year old is getting married to the baby's father! But I guess it's okay for him because he's a Dem. Do as I say and not as I do.Clinton was banging interns in the Oval Office, and Obama was conceived out of wedlock. I think all of these hypocritical Liberals need to back off, because it's going to come back to bite them.

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from Bill wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Buckstopper, you said it "when a lawmaker panders to a special interest be that a particular industry or handout crowd they screw up every time". I can also see the same thing happening when people vote for a president because they pander specifically to one thing [i.e. 2A] we're going to elect the wrong person every time and "screw it up".

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from Walt Smith wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Buckstopper, I totaly agree with your statement, BRAVO!. I cannot believe that any AMERICAN democrat or republican could possibly fathom the thought of voting for obama when the man refuses to say the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, or sing the STAR SPANGLED BANNER!! And to top that off his wife states to the decomacratic convention that "for the first time in my life I love my country". ARRRGHHH!!! How can you vote for people who don't love our country? How did they even make it to where they are feeling that way and who helped them get there?? Thank GOD for John McCain and Sara Palin!! COUNTRY FIRST!!!

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from buckstopper wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

As for the last 8 yrs under Bush, it seems to me the economy didn't go south until the Dumbocrats(thanks Ralph) took over Congress.If I recall also, Clintons economy didn't do so well until Mr. Newt and the boys took over.Fact is, when it comes to the economy it is EASIER for the President and Congress to mess it up than help it. It's the hardworking American people who actually make it work. When the lawmakers pander to a special interest be that a particular industry or to the handout crowd they screw up everytime. Such as opening up credit to risky or unqualified individuals, hence a CREDIT CRISIS. We would do better to actually teach young people how to balance a checkbook instead of applying for PELL GRANTS and mortgages they cannot pay.

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from peter wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Macain made a great choose for VP. i aready wanted him to win and i hope this will convince otheres to vote for him and not THE ANTI-CHRIST OBAMA

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from WyleECoyote wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

All because someone can haul a moose out of the backcountry does not make this person (man or woman) presidential timber. Nor should being an NRA member grant an individual a vote automatically.A person that talks about book banning,no sex ed,supporting the bridge to no where (and taking the money even when it was eliminated) is no hero to the American citizen. Although she supports the second admendmant, I see signs that she would toss out the first at a whim. There is also an air of croneyism that is disconcerting at best.I fear that both sides are dangerously incompetant. Neither side is to be trusted. EVER.

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from Kenny wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I hunted in Alaska last october for caribou and anyone who wants to shoot a moose in the tundra or bogy bottoms and get the meat out is tough! Caribou was hard enough.I'd be more dissapointed in her if she hadn't tried to get that trooper fired, He admits to illegaly shooting a moose while a wildlife officer, but claims he didn't know it was wrong. What? and he didn't get throwed out then, and the department concluded he was drinking on duty and he only got 5 day susspension. She should be praised for firing the commissioner if that kind of abuses were being tollorated. As for her daughter, what is she supposed to do lock her in a closet at least she is not hiding her, she is standing by her durring a difficult situation, I'm very sure she wishes it didn't happen, but I think she is handling it correctly.By the way, I liked her voice fine.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK, I sleep all night and I work all day. Good detective work Creosote... Now I finally understand the "I cut down trees I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra" lyric!Where you been Buddy/HAIRY? I was beginning to think you didn't like us anymore.

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from HAIRY wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Sarah looking very hot!http://nimbusters.org/forum/forum.php?board=8

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from Mr. Creosote wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Can you guys not see the obvious? Forget all the debate about Sarah Palin will do this and Sarah Palin won't do that.Instead, you should be asking yourself "Who IS Sarah Palin?"Is she truly the female governor of Alaska and John McCain's running mate, or is she a really funny British dude who looks good in drag?FACT: Sarah Palin shares the same last name with Michael Palin of Monty Python fame.FACT: Of all the Python members who portrayed female characters, only Michael Palin's were truly "womanly."FACT: Some of Sarah Palin's earlier photographs showing her with short hair bear a striking resemblance to Michael Palin publicity stills of the same era.FACT: "Sarah Palin" or whoever she is, is the governor of Alaska.FACT: Alaska has lots of lumberjacks.FACT: Michael Palin sang the Lumberjack song.Coincidence? I think not.I think we as a nation need to take a good, long look at "Sarah Palin" before we wake up on November 5, 2008 to find our Vice-President Elect fish-dancing through the Rose Garden.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Wow Gman, that Anne's one jealous small town loser... amazing that she didn't mention Sarah has the highest approval rating of any Governor in America. And I'm sure no one in Chicago has a bad word to say about the Obamessiah.

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from Gman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Sounds like old Sally Lou would fit right in the Bush White House.www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/about-sarah-palin-a-letter-from-anne-kilkenny/741/

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from O Garcia wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I didn't find anything wrong with Sarah Palin's voice. I think she looks nice, too. (And so do her daughters - OMG, I will be damned to hell!)She's the Republican "rock star."As has been noted by the media, Palin can continue with her speech even if the teleprompter goes past. She can ad lib, while the Dems' rock star (Obama) cannot.Obama has a great voice, and he sounds, and looks right when making a "prepared" speech, reading the teleprompter. Has anybody in the starstruck media actually listened to him or watched him when he's answering interviews? when he hasn't had time to pre-read the questions?Has anybody ever heard Obama answer an 'impromptu' question? make an 'impromptu' speech? is he still eloquent?He's a phony, IMO.

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from Shaky wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Greg; the VP doesn't stay in D.C. all the time. The present V.P. had time to shoot his quail hunting partner. As D.E.P. already said, SCARY.

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from Greg wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hello Clay and Mike, been a while since I blogged with you guys missed it its alot of fun. A Woman that has a family such as hers(which pretty much seems to be the AMERICAN way)and hunts and fishes, damn thats just about enough for me! When she get in up on the hill it will screw her life up. Cant kill a moose in D.C. LOL.

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from james ti wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

mike diehl,did you miss the part where they banned the bible in schools? but it's ok to replace that with your liberal trash!

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from Greg wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

johnl, you're killin me! just spit my drink all over my keyboard!!! In redneck/hippie terms(oh yes very conservitive terms) I dig this chick!! I think she scares the hell out of the establishment and I love it!

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

In fact, in his speech last night, McCain urged people to perform real service in their communities:My friends, if you find faults with our country, make it a better one. If you're disappointed with the mistakes of government, join its ranks and work to correct them. Enlist--enlist in our armed forces. Become a teacher. Enter the ministry. Run for public office. Feed a hungry child. Teach an--an illiterate adult to read. Comfort the afflicted. Defend the rights of the oppressed.Our country will be the better and you will be the happier because nothing brings greater happiness in life than to serve a cause greater than yourself.-------------------------------The following is NOT John McCain.Our call for "community organizer" jokes brought some amusing ones:• Nelles Hamilton: What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a pit bull? Teeth.• Dagny Billings: What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a seeing-eye dog? Even a blind man can see the dog is actually helping someone.• Michael Roberson: What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a Chihuahua? The Chuhuahua will eventually shut up.• Bob Vorick: What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a puppy? One will grow up to become a loyal servant of mankind.• O. Nara: What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a shih tzu? Zu.Left-liberal blogger Ezra Klein, meanwhile, argues that it's racist to make fun of "community organizers." (It seems that Barack Obama, a former "community organizer," is African-American.) Which gives us another idea for a joke:What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a pit bull?It's a black thing, you wouldn't understand.

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from Just Jesting wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Obama/Biden Vs McCain/Palin.Choose between "a babe in the woods," or "a babe in the Whitehouse."

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Click on this link and say to yourself, THIS IS SARAH PALIN!http://www.handgunrepairshop.com/Mother.jpg

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

“Armed women deter rapists over 400 times each day.”-bumper sticker“Armed women equals polite men.”-Charles Curley

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from Mike Diehl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

"so it's ok to ban the bible from anywhere..."Where in the United States has anyone banned the bible? Was there some sort of book burning? Has someone told you you can't purchase, own, or read a bible in your home, church, cary, library?I always knew radical lefties were "poor pitiful me I've been such a helpless victim" wimps, but that sort of thing seems to be catchin' among feckless bible thumpers.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Man, I wish I could write like this guy.Victor Davis Hanson:In short, Sarah Palin is the emblem of what feminism was supposed to be all about: an unafraid, independent, audacious woman, who soared on her own merits without the aid of a patriarchal jumpstart, high-brow matrimonial tutelage and capital, and old-boy liaisons and networking.Instead this entire sorry episode of personal invective against, and jealousy toward, Sarah Palin is surreal. Given the rising backlash, Palin Derangement Syndrome may prove to be the one thing, fairly or not, that sinks Barack Obama.

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from Thos. B. Fowler wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Ok, boys...let's holster our weapons, and remember that this is a gun blog.We are more united than divided...let's keep to civil discourse.Tom F.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

When are the Dumbocrats going to realize they are not running against W.? Sorry boys, but the last eight years are over. We've had a year and a half of a Democrat controlled congress and all I've seen are gas prices doubled and a bunch of finger pointing. No solutions. Besides, how can you lose? McCain is a liberal compared to me and Obama is so far left he fell off California and ended up in Hawaii. This stupid election was a gimme for the left from the start and now they've somehow managed to screw it up... and I'm not even surprised. No wonder you're all crying.

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from james ti wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

a lot of freedoms are not going to mean anything if obama gets elected. as i said before, once they get done with the 2a they'll come after the rest. you have no rights. just shut up, listen, and do as you are told!

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from mike wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Another 84,000 jobs lost.I know what we should do. We should elect the party that has been in charge over the last 8 years. They must be able to fix the problem, because they created it.vote mccain. We'll have our guns...but no jobs...but its all good.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Get out your Constitution and show it to me Mr. Diehl. It says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" I sure as hell don't understand how that can be interpreted as a separation of church and state. In fact separating the two make be construed as prohibiting the free exercise thereof in my world.

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from Bruce S wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

TONY c YOUR A IDIOT- SO WHAT IF HER DAUGHTER IS PREGNANT?? DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER ABILITIES AND THERE IS NO PROOF AS OF YET REGARDING HER BROTHER IN LAW ACCUSATIONS...NOT TOO MENTION HE SUPPOSEDLY ABUSED HER SISTER AND SUPPOSEDLY THREATENED TO KILL HER PARENTS??? WHY WOULD YOU EVEN BOTHER MENTIONING THIS ON THIS SITE UNLESS YOUR A IDIOT AND HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO???

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

To johnl:When I wrote the comment, I generally had in mind radical libertarians. In my (admittedly limited) observation, American libertarians tend to come in two main strains: traditional libertarians, who want a return to a strict reading of the U.S. Constitution, and radical libertarians, who believe that the U.S. Constitution, and the resulting republican democracy, needs a serious overhaul, because even a strict interpretation of it yields too much government.But those other forms of government are worth thinking through, too, if only to understand why we reject them, and thus better appreciate the form of government we do choose. If our abhorrence for, say, anarchism is purely visceral, we can hardly say we've made a willful choice to eschew it in favor of republican democracy. To quote George Will, "[T]he viscera are not the seat of wisdom."To eyeball:Schools, public or private, are one part education and four parts enculturation. The question is which values they inculcate. And I hear there's a culture war on.The only thought I have here is that there's a difference between what's available at school and what's required. That is, there's a difference between whether a child can check out "Daddy's Roommate" from the school library if he so chooses and whether he is forced to read the book for class. Having given it only precursory mental attention, I would call a ban on the former censorship and a ban on the latter a legitimate curricula decision for school boards.That being said, I'm deeply dismayed that Mark Twain's "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" has been banned from the curricula and even libraries of some schools because of a particular word taken out of historical and literary context. I am a Missouri boy who grew up with Mark Twain's books and tried to match them with Huck-and-Tom styled "adventures" of my own. (Just ask my mother -- she remembers.) To deprive young boys of these books seems borderline criminal.

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from Zermoid wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hey Guys, slightly off topic but something I came across on my local news site:Beaver County, Pa - A Beaver County man says he believes he broke no laws by carrying a gun across the street from the site of a rally of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.John Noble, 50, of Industry, said he was not attending the event Friday night in Beaver and wanted only to hand out fliers about gun rights.Noble said he was in a park across from the Beaver County Courthouse with his wife, Janet, an hour before Obama arrived. He was eating an apple and holding a Bible when four officers and a police dog approached Noble, disarmed and arrested him.He said he offered the officers fliers, but they weren't interested."It's my right to keep and bear arms. It's completely legal what I was doing," Noble said Saturday. "I was about to hand out some gun-right fliers. I never had a chance."State police Trooper Shawn Schexnaildre said in a news release that Noble breached a secured perimeter of a presidential candidate political rally with a fully loaded, holstered and exposed handgun.Noble's actions created a clear public alarm and caused a significant breakdown in rally security because officers had to leave manned security posts to arrest and disarm Noble, the trooper said.Misdemeanor disorderly conduct charges will be forthcoming against Noble, said Schexnaildre.Noble said he openly was carrying a Glock 9 mm semi-automatic handgun in a retention holster, which prevents the gun from being removed without activating a secret release. He said he has carried the gun every day for 23 years for protection but never has drawn it or had to use it."I carry it all over Beaver County, and I never had anything happen," said Noble, describing himself as a self-employed contractor who installs fencing for horses and cattle.Noble said he has a license to carry a concealed weapon. A self-described activist and "law-abiding citizen," Noble said he has distributed fliers on gun rights to police agencies, but this was the first time he tried to do so in public.Noble said he was shackled and held for about three hours. Police kept his gun, worth about $600, he said.He said he has an attorney but would not provide the name. Noble said he's not sure how he'll respond to the incident.Asked if it was wise to carry a gun near the Obama event, Noble said: "His rights don't trump mine."Seems its being reported that the PA State Police may have violated a mans rights for being in a public place with his legally carried sidearm.....Just interested to know if anyone from that area had some personal info on the happenings!FYI, In Pennsylvania, persons 18 years of age and older whom are not prohibited by law from owning firearms may openly carry a handgunin plain sight with no license except in vehicles*, cities ofthe first class** (Philadelphia) and where prohibited specificallyby statute.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

eyeball,BRAVO!nothing to add

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from james ti wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

so it's ok to ban the bible from anywhere you want but not ok to ban offensive books that our kids don't need to be reading at 4 yrs old! boy are we in trouble!eyeball,you must have heard something i haven't. i hear obama talking but not saying a d**n thing about how he's going to save the world. i guess we'll just have to wait for him and biden to get off eachother's lap to get any type of straight answers as to how he plans to teach us all how to live.

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from eyeball wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Emmanuel;Sorry, no links; this adventure happened in 1994, shortly after Al Gore invented the Internet, and you have to pay the local papers' archives department to let you back that far. The Milwaukee Journal gave it scant coverage anyway, burying it deep inside the second section, as I recall. Too bad the librarian didn't put a cross up instead of that magazine; the liberals from fifty miles around would have been railing against it rather than for it, and the story would have made the front page above the crease.As a conservative, I'm not for censorship; I'm for sending kids to kindergarten and not having to worry that they will have "Daddy's Roommate" read to them before recess. What seems to liberals to be us intruding on their freedom is usually just us refusing to swallow what they want to feed us. I'm delighted with Sarah Palin because she doesn't kick the ground and stammer about her beliefs, even though they involve (gasp) hunting and (gag) Christianity.Oh, Frank Fox, McCain's only plan is NOT just to drill. That is part of his plan, yes, because we have a fossil fuel based civilization at the time of this writing. His plan is to drill enough, and dig enough compliance coal, to tide us over until the nuclear/ geothermal/ solar/etc. tech, which he will rigorously pursue, has come far enough to take over (which, by the way, it CAN'T do as of right now). He has promised 30 nuclear reactors; sound like all he wants to do is drill, drill, drill? Obama has mistaken a supply issue for a conservation issue, and will govern accordingly and wrongly if he is elected.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

No, drilling alone is NOT going to solve the problem. NOBODY is saying that, get your heads out!But it's not mutually exclusive.We CAN do more than one thing at a time.Even the new guru, T. Boone Pickens (and god I'm getting tired of his commercials) says we should be developing all of the available sources....wind,solar, nuclear, and drilling,etc.Who is stopping those developments?Who blocked building of new refineries, and new nuclear facilities?There's your problem.Oil companies aren't saying we (or China, India, Russia, France...think Nuclear)shouldn't develop other energy sources. Blocking of increasing oil production is not the answer either.Waaah, we can't do more than one thing at a time. So, let's do nothing.?????????????????Oil companies are in business to make a profit, for them (to be able to stay in business) and their stockholders (which is us, if you care to check your retirement plans).They explore, develop, produce and sell. To condemn them and demand that "those evil oil companies" spend their money (ours actually) to find other ways to put themselves out of business is just plain dumb.The "windfall profits" business is due to increased worldwide demand, as more countries become modernized (see..China and India using cars not bicycles), it's not due to price gouging of the same existing customers.If you made widgets and one customer would pay you a $1 each, and one new customer would pay you $1.25, where you gonna sell?

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from frank fox wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I love my guns as much as any man here, and I would fight for them to the death, but there is more to this election than that. Even die-hard oil executives admit that drilling isn't going to solve our energy problems, not with China and India about to gobble as much of the stuff as we do. The only plan McCain and Palin have is drill.I'm voting for Obama--he's smart, he's sensible, and I think he's going to be a terrific president.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Emmanuel,Respectfully,(truly) I'd like to ask a question."As for which political affiliation likes forcing its views on others, I'm distrustful all around, as I believe a journalist should be. Both parties promote their particular brand of government intrusion. We might debate chocolate, vanilla or strawberry, but we're still eating ice cream. I like to ask why we're eating ice cream in the first place, instead of something else."I assume you are talking about Democrat vs Republican, or Liberal vs Conservative forms and "ice cream" means philosophies of governing?What might be the "something else" available.I'm not sure where you were going.Things that popped into mind were anarchy, monarchy, dictatorship, pure democracy (rule of the simple majority)?Please explain further your thoughts.

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hi eyeball,That's a fascinating story -- I'd like to read more about it if you have any links. It’s unfortunate that the librarians wouldn't take the magazine off the front rack. Free speech is worth fighting for, but the difference between a Profile in Courage and Don Quixote is in picking one's battles. (A lot of young progressives don't seem to understand this. In their minds, the protesters in St. Paul this week were just as righteous as the protesters in Selma, Ala., were back in the 1960s. They are of course incredibly wrong.)The “Spanish Inquisitions” are real. I grew up the son of a musician, and my father tells me that the choir teachers are catching grief for works such as Handel's "Messiah." This is ludicrous. Most of the choral canon is religious because for centuries the church was the only entity that funded composers. The classics are all about God, and to understand the history of Western music you have to sing about God. No one cried foul when we read "Paradise Lost" in English class because it’s understood that we didn’t get from Chaucer to Nabokov without Milton. (Maybe this is different now?)As for which political affiliation likes forcing its views on others, I'm distrustful all around, as I believe a journalist should be. Both parties promote their particular brand of government intrusion. We might debate chocolate, vanilla or strawberry, but we're still eating ice cream. I like to ask why we're eating ice cream in the first place, instead of something else.As you suggest, my “typo” remark was scattershot, ad hominem and irrelevant to the discussion. It obviously wasn’t directed at you, and it's I who owe the apologies. I’m strict about language because I write for a living, but I don’t hold others who have no professional reason to know the minutiae of English to the same standards, which are all too often capricious anyhow. But I do wish some folks took more pride in the language (a cause for which Mr. Petzal has advocated), especially if those folks believe English ought to be our “official” tongue.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

"There is no separation of church and state it was made up whole cloth by the Supreme Court"Pure baloney. Your claim is as bad as the anti-gun liberals claiming that the 2nd Amendment is a collective right administered by states not an individual one.

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from eyeball wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Oops, mixed numbers; should read, 'When it comes to forcing his/her views on others, no conservative can stand up to a liberal; he/ she has no chance.' My apologies, Emmanuel.

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from eyeball wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Gman, Emmanuel, Gary;A few years back in Greenfield, Wis., a public librarian put an 'alternative' magazine on the magazine rack in the dead front of the check-out desk, the desk you have to pass if you are going to enter the library. The magazine was eye level to a four year old. And on the cover was a full page photo two men naked to the waist, deep kissing each other.Needless to say, a few parents complained, and there was good attendance at the county board meeting that week. And when parents in attendance protested that their small children had to walk right past that desk, the librarian (and every other liberal from a fifty mile radius) vigorously defended the magazine's placement there, calling it 'censorship' to remove it. The board chairman sniffed righteously about how difficult it is to define pornography, would you put Michelangelo's David in jockey shorts, etc. In short, the concerned parents (we) were simply shouted down. Nobody denied the publication the right to exist; nobody denied the library the right to subscribe to it. We just wanted it put where small children didn't have to look straight at it every time they went into the library for a Dr. Seuss book. And we were spoken to the way one speaks to a retarded person whose second language is English.I don't know the circumstances behind Palin and the 'book banning,' but it sounds a lot like what I sat through. Ever-tolerant liberals force garbage on us every single day in the name of free speech, and then cry "Spanish Inquisition" when somebody prays a 30 second prayer at the start of a high school football game, or says "Merry Christmas" in a public school. When it comes to forcing their views on others, no conservative can stand up to a liberal; he has no chance. And Emmanuel, if you have read this far, I can only hope my poor use of English and my many typos haven't offended you.

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from Gman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I figured you'd chime in, Dr. Ralph.I always wondered if you considered yourself a transcendentalist or a transient mentalist.If you don't like my posts, stop reading them. I find yours hilarious and representative of a certain style like Grandma Moses; it's called American primitive. You should copyright them.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Ann Coulter said it best today:"But at least liberal reporters had finally found someone their own size to pick on: a 17 year old girl."

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from Zermoid wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

On the bridge thing, I dunno, I can see someone looking at the project to build a bridge to connect part of the community to the rest of the area as being a good idea and then when in charge of actually paying for the outrageous bill for it saying No! at the last minute.As far as the daughter, I actually agree with Obama for once, it should be a family matter.What really pi$$es me off is the media harping on her kids and newborn! Wondering how she can run for office with a family, when if she were a Man instead of a Woman I'll bet they would never say a word about it! Why the double standard in this day and age? It's sickening if you ask me.

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from W. Scott A wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Just got an e-mail from a friend in Ireland -- guess they hadn't heard of Sarah yet; but still thought you might like it. . .'We, in Ireland, can't figure out why you people are even bothering to hold an election in the United States.On one side, you had a pants wearing female lawyer, married to another lawyer who can't seem to keep his pants on, who just lost a long and heated primary against a lawyer, who goes to the wrong church, who is married to yet another lawyer, who doesn't even like the country her husband wants to run!Now...On the other side, you have a nice old war hero whose name starts with the appropriate 'Mc' terminology, married to a good looking younger woman who owns a beer distributorship!What in God's name are ya lads thinkin over in the colonies!

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Dr. Ralph: It's perfectly legal to bring a Bible to school, and to discuss it as mythology or literature. What's illegal is to force that Bible on your fellow schoolmates as the inerrant Word of God. And that's an American idea that goes back to this country's founding. When Thomas Jefferson died, he wanted three of his accomplishments listed on his grave: The Declaration of Independence (he authored it), the University of Virgina (he founded it), and the Virginia Statue for Religious Freedom(he authored it).As for those offensive and dangerous books, it's about context: The Old Testament contains disturbing behavior such as murder and rape. To read it as a uniform endorsement of those behaviors is just as foolish as reading "A Clockwork Orange" as endorsing the murder and rape it contains. (If you want my take, that novel is a scathing indictment of totalitarianism and B.F. Skinners behaviorislt ideology.)Now can we please talk about guns? If Sarah Palin's cartridge of choice is the .300 Win Mag, I would rather discuss that.

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from Gary wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

First, I have to say that I don't think anyone should be attempting to score political points at the expense of a seventeen year old girl who is probably scared out of her mind. She made a mistake, and I for one have yet to meet a perfect human being.Having said that, has anyone actually looked at her record and not her chest?She is not the self-styled reformer that she makes herself out to be.Here are just a few illustrative points:1) She ran for govenenor promising to support the famous "bridge to nowhere," it was only after she figured out that it was politically expedient to oppose it that she decided to be against it. Uh, can we say flip flopper?2) She instituted a wind-fall profit on the oil companies, which the last time I checked was something most Republicans were opposed to. The oil companies then proceeded to cut production by thirteen percent, thus making gas more expensive for everyone.3) As mayor of Wasilla she cut property taxes and gave tax breaks to local companies and large landholders, but to make up for budget shortfalls she increased the sales tax and extended it to food, thus shifting the tax burden to the less advantaged.4) Oh, and most importantly for me, she did attempt to ban certain books from the public library. As I have read many times on this blog, "you can't pick and choose what amendments you support."My point is this. I think people who see Senator Obama or Govenenor Palin as a departure from politics as usual are severly misguided and bordering on delusional.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

She's the Dumbocrat's worst nightmare... a girly girl who can kick Hillary's a$$.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Dr. Ralph, don't be so mean to them.They just want children to be able to read anything they want to, good for them or not, unless it's that nasty old bible. Good call.Why, we wouldn't want to influence their minds and development of their own unique personalities.We have to build their self-esteem you know, by allowing them to do anything they want.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Yeah G-man, the person who decides what books are too dangerous are the parents, I guess that's why leftwingsocialists work so hard to keep the Bible out of children's hands. There is no separation of church and state it was made up whole cloth by the Supreme Court just like the miraculous discovery in 1978 that abortion was legal all along. Damn I hate to tell you this but I think your posts are about as rewarding as reading Buddy Hinton's links... Sarah hit one so far out of the park last night it may not have come down yet. Maybe if we're lucky it will land in San Francisco on Dianne Feinstein's head!

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

How do you like her now? My wife and I looked at each other after Giuliani and Palin's double barrel blast at the Dumbocrats and we both said "she's the one who should be running for president". Obviously I'm not alone... I saw a poster board in an SUV this morning that said "Sarah in '08... and '12... and '16. We've got a new rock star and she hunts, rides snowmobiles, wants to build more piplines from Alaska and looks damn good doing it. And they thought Obama could give a speech.

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from Gman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Yooper, I have been reading Audacity of Hope. Obama is pretty well informed on the decline of federal funding of blue sky research in the physical sciences, so I don't think he's clueless about energy policy.But you have a point. Because I have a broadband Internet hookup and 99.99% of the material I need is available to me via the Web or telephone, I have driven just 60,000 miles in the last 9 years. And those telecom technologies were originally developed under blue sky DoD grants.If John McCain doesn't use the Internet, can he effectively use the bully pulpit to push next-gen research?James Ti, the person who should decide what books are too "offensive and dangerous" for their kids are their parents - each child's parents, not 300 right-wing tightasses deciding Clockwork Orange encourages bad behavior. Letting any public official decide what constitutes "offensive and dangerous" is, well, offensive and dangerous.

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from mike wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

So all this chatter about the liberal biased left media...ok...well here are some words right from Rove and O'Reilly.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGenNjOAIFace the facts. The republicans f'd up, now they need to let someone else come in an fix the mess.

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from Del in KS wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hardwood,Big cities are full of liberals willing to sell their soul for a handfull of beans or Nobama's BS. I talk to many of them everyday at my job with the USPS. It frustrates the heck out of me. When folks ask if I like Sara I say was Churchill a Brit, Is a pig pork. Hell yes I like her. Now the lib press will do everything they can to stop her. Expect them to come up with an October surprise. Remember Dan Rather's little trick. He took the fall but if you believe his bosses weren't involved I have some land in Florida for sale.

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from Scott in Southern Illinois wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hey james ti,.300 Win Mag eh? Nice all around choice for Alaska. I was up there back in 2004. When I asked a guide what he recommended in a rifle, he stated the .300 would do nicely for just about anything up there. There's always the old debate against the 30-06 when it comes to paper performance, but having both rifles, the .300 does seem to give a slight edge. Thanks.

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from Carney wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Then again, he did use the word "mellifluous" just for flare -- maybe saying, "amen" is just some literary device we don't understand yet...

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from Carney wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

GMan, Hunter Nut, et alia,DEP is obviously a "religious nut". Did you see he used the word, "AMEN"?!?!?! That's blasted church language!Go get 'im!

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from hardwoodjdc wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I live in a rural community in Michigans thumb, so I recognize I am somewhat isolated. However I do comunicate via email with other parts of the country and I am yet to come accross anyone who supports Obama yet the media keeps telling me that he is leading in their polls. Any thoughts? Bt the way Palin is a great choice in my mind.

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from Thos. B. Fowler wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Go, Sarah!It will be a rough ride, but you can take it. There IS no other choice this year, for shooters & hunters, that I can see.Tom Fowler

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from james ti wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

the book thing, the trooper thing, the bridge thing. all overblown. if that's the best they can do palin is in good shape. i was in alaska and remember when palin sold the jet. laughed my butt off when she put it on e-bay! if i found out a trooper had drank in his patrol car or shot a moose without a liscence with his service revolver, i would have had him thrown in jail not just fired! palin rejected the bridge when she found out it was not as first proposed. it was suposed to connect more than just 500 villagers on one island but became a circus and she decided it wasn't worth the money or bulls**t. how many governers in the U.S. has an 80% approval rating? i think she shoots a 300 win. mag. but not 100% sure. think i heard that somewhere.

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from YooperJack wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Gman:I really do envy you! You have a job that will allow you to work with very little energy expense. I'm not talking about you personally, I'm referring to use of fossil fuels.Sarah Palin, last night, outlined a platform that calls for a comprehensive energy plan. She cited more dilling, conservation, nuclear, solar and wind power. Obama has cited wind power, conservation and inflating tires. As anaside, I asked a logger about this. He can't figure out where the air goes in the tracks of his equipment. I said maybe pressurize the cab so you get used to hot air.Seriously, this country needs an energy policy that can lead to full employment. I would hope that an energy policy would also shift power plants away from oil and natural gas so that these resources can be used for heating, transportation, etc.Also, I want to know more about "book banning". Where did this story originate. If its from NBC, NYT, CNN or any over the other Dem surrogates, its probably overblown.YooperJack

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from james ti wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

has anyone else been hearing the winey dribble from the democrats about being hammered from palin last night? all this after 3 days of going after her with the media on their side. dems hate it when the tables turn don't they?gman,the 1a does not give extremist librarians the right to put offensive, dangerous books in the hands of our kids. palin was begged by hundreds of people to get those books out of the library for a long time and when it came to a fight they all abandoned her to fight it out by herself. when the librarian-who was involved it controversy after controversy for a long time before this-was asked if her kids were allowed to check these books out, she refused to asnswer 4 times. the 1a is just as important but not when it comes to our kids getting a hold of material they are not ready for.

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Damn. Typo. Muphry's Law, I guess.

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Before the savaging commences, I should add that I care less about the arguments for or against of Sarah Palin, John McCain, Joe Biden or Barack Obama than I do about the startlingly narrow political discourse in this country. If ideas stretched like the electromagnetic spectrum, our politics would be visible light -- colorful, perhaps, but only a very tiny fraction of what's there.

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Wait, Gman. Are you suggesting that a small group of hyper-religious zealots hell-bent on using the coercive power of government to tell the entire country how to live has subsumed a political party that once prided itself on staying out of folks' personal lives and business? Are you suggesting that one's preference between the two major political parties is merely an expression of the particular way in which one is willing to submit to greater government control and coercion?Why, that's preposterous, my friend. You must be a sociologist or some other cog in the liberal intelligentsia.In all earnestness, though, I applaud you for expressing an opinion contrary to the majority of the board. I, too, always find the idea of censorship troubling. Now let us prepare for the obligatory typo-riddled savaging.

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from firedog wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I am kinda of suprised with some of the comments about Sarah and her family. First none of us knows how her family functions just like I don't how Dave's functions. The thing is none of us have the right to comment it is their choice. I like what she says and how she says it.You folks out there that think Obama means change better consider what kinda of change. I notice the guy never says anything and by that I mean he never says anything concrete it is always vague and non committal.The guy has been a senator for 143 days and that is it. He is lawyer and Biden is a lawyer. Now McCain and Palin aren't lawyers. If it is any group that is out of touch with people its lawyers.I suggest those that think the Dems won't come after your firearms if Obama wins better go look at the record of both Biden and Obama. You will find that both of them are very much total banners of firearm ownership.If you don't think the media wants to pick our president just look how they question Palin over her kids but no questions over Obama taking his kids to a church where if the minister had been white and everyone wore hoods it would have been a Klan rally. Check out the pic, its on the net of Biden taking his oath of office in his daughters hospital room while his daughter was in critical condition. HMMM no question by the media about family coming first there!If Obama and Biden win you can look for the banning of guns and the censorship of the media cause Obama and his lawyers have threatened various stattions radio and tv with yanking their lics. when Obama wins. You can say good bye to Dave and his column because Obama isn't going to allow this kind of discussion when he gets in as he is a fascist.

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from paul Wilke wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Thinking of the future,Clinton Vs Palin.How's your vote go?

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from Gman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Sarah Palin is a dangerous theocrat who would be a great VP for all of us if we were all born-again Christians with tightass reading tastes.I ain't, and I ain't.I could give a rat's rear end about her experience as governor of that godforsaken mosquito den. The greatest president this country ever had had exactly one term in the House of Representatives before he was elected. And he got us through a civil war.McCain and Palin would set this country's economy and culture back 50 years; and I don't mean everybody in Detroit will have a good-paying job making tail finned-monsters, either.My 2A rights are too important to subsume them to a Far Right barracuda who wants to ban books. I've read many times on here that "Without 2A you won't have 1A." Well, now's the time to stand up for 1A, fellas, or admit you kinda like the idea of a country where everybody's a good God-fearing American - which is the epitome of an America that ain't worth the time the Framers put into the Constitution

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Bubba,I gues it's however the driveby media wants to say it.When the Clinton's were occupying the White House, I could never decide if sh1t-head (sic) was one word or two....

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from Scott in Southern Illinois wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I personally believe John McCain could not have made a more perfect choice for VP. She's all that AND a moose hunter! I would like to know what she shoots....a .300 Win Mag, a 30-06 (my personal fave), a 7mm mag. The choices would lead us a long way to who she really is. Think about it.

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from Thos. B. Fowler wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hey, Guys and Gals [better add that],I am stunned and smiling about Sarah Palin agreeing to the proposal to run for Vice-President. It will mean a great sacrifice of her family and quality time, and I can hear the grinding stones rumbling now, sharpening the knives of her opponents. She dares not to make a single misstep...she is already under fire for confusing politics with religion--you WILL see more on that.I suppose that we all have to remember that we are electing real people, not Messiahs, when we cast ballots. We pin far too many hopes on our President, whoever he/she is, and refuse to recognize that the office is way too large for any single human being.We have more at stake, we who love guns and hunting. If Sarah does well, we do, too. If she drops the ball, we take a big hit. I like what I see, and she sure looks better than a pit bull, with or without the lipstick. I hope that the Secret Service adequately protects the woman. She represents fear for all our enemies, foreign or domestic...and to assassinate a pro-gun candidate---perish the thought, folks.We are not out of the woods, yet. Whatever happens, hurray for our Lady Who Hunts, and may she take careful aim in the next few months.Tom Fowler

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from Bubbainmiss wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Wrong, Dave. Absolutely nothing wrong with Mrs. Palin's voice. However, I wish the folks saying her name out loud would settle on one pronunciation and stick with it. Is it Paw-lin, Pay-lin, or Pal-lin? Maybe they could run an opinion poll on that.

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from YooperJack wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Eric:This by far is the best reason to vote for Obama! He's never fired anybody! Hell, maybe he can find his supplier for cocaine and put him in charge of the war on drugs. Perhaps William Ayers could be AG. Maybe that job should go to Tony Rezko. He knows law pretty well now. Ayers or his wife, Bernadine Dorne, could easily handle Secratary of Defense. Now we just need to find a job for his retired pastor.YooperJack

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from JLB wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Up flies a guinea, bang goes sixpence, and down comes half-a-crown.

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from Bryce wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Let's get down to issues here on Ms Palin. There is not a sportsman with a pair that would not put his mother in a home to have the Govenor making their AM coffee. What happens at home is family business (ie.: Chip Ford's girls in the Whitehouse, raising the Bush twins, the Clintons are still married??). She has the tenacity for the job and she has the bearing to win. Now, the press, a mamber of which the proprietor of this blog is, will find out if she has the veracity. Set the dogs loose! Withstanding this is nothing compared to international politics.

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from Tsov Tom wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Eric: You mean sorta like Bill and Hillary firing, and trying to prosecute, the White House travel staff and making nearly a hundred federal attorneys resign when they came into office?

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from DAVE2 wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

GO SARAH! GO SARAH! SPEECH WAS AWESOME.IF REPUBLICANS TAKE THE OFFICE, THE ODDS ARE REALLY GOOD THAT THIS LADY IN FOUR YEARS WILL BE RUNNING FOR THE BIG JOB.I'M SURE BILL C. WILL BE ON THE ROAD A LOT TO AVOID BEING AT HOME.

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from Eric wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I am more concerned about this 1st Admendment infringement than her pregnancies.Palin the book bannerStein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.htmlThe New York Times has further information on this issue today, including the news that Palin FIRED the Wasilla librarian:“Shortly after becoming mayor, former city officials and Wasilla residents said, Ms. Palin approached the town librarian about the possibility of banning some books, though she never followed through and it was unclear which books or passages were in question.Ann Kilkenny, a Democrat who said she attended every City Council meeting in Ms. Palin’s first year in office, said Ms. Palin brought up the idea of banning some books at one meeting. “They were somehow morally or socially objectionable to her,” Ms. Kilkenny said.The librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, pledged to “resist all efforts at censorship,” Ms. Kilkenny recalled. Ms. Palin fired Ms. Emmons shortly after taking office but changed course after residents made a strong show of support. Ms. Emmons, who left her job and Wasilla a couple of years later, declined to comment for this article.In 1996, Ms. Palin suggested to the local paper, The Frontiersman, that the conversations about banning books were “rhetorical.”Ms. Emmons was not the only employee to leave. During her campaign, Ms. Palin appealed to voters who felt that city employees under Mr. Stein, who was not from Wasilla and had earned a degree in public administration at the University of Oregon, had been unresponsive and rigid regarding a new comprehensive development plan. In turn, some city employees expressed support for Mr. Stein in a campaign advertisement.Once in office, Ms. Palin asked many of Mr. Stein’s backers to resign — something virtually unheard of in Wasilla in past elections. The public works director, city planner, museum director and others were forced out. The police chief, Irl Stambaugh, was later fired outright.”

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from Art Lamb wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I think Sarah will make a great VP, and besides she is a damn good looking woman to boot. So we get a good looking, straight shooting, frontier woman and that is great. I lived in Alaska for 5 years and wish that she was the Governor then.

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from jim in nc wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Yooper and all the rest of you:I agree with everything y'all have said about Sarah and Bristol and their family; I admire what they're doing about this situation (tho I worry about Sarah's ability to handle the VP along with a pregnant daughter and a special-needs baby); and I'm not sure I even consider what happened "sin." My beef is with the political parties.

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from BrokenRubber wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

EyeBall,Chelsea ... yeah there's the TICKET!Better soak the gonads in EverClear for a decade or so if that happens?

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from AlaskanExile wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Remember, Obama likes guns so much that he wants yours too!

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from AlaskanExile wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

The weekend before the primary election where Sarah Palin beat Frank Murkowski, the incumbent governor at the time, and a long-serving Senator, she was at a gun-show!I met her there, briefly. She could have sent a flunky to do that, but went herself. She was not working with any cue-cards or tele-prompters, and she was convincing many crusty old crumudgeons that she was the woman for the job. Alas, I had cast my vote already for "Frank-the-Bank" as he was sometimes known. I didn't think she had the moxie to take-on Exxon-Mobile, Shell and BP, I was wrong!I was convinced that day that she would win the primary without my vote, and I had no doubt that she would be the governor. I'm not surprised at all by her performance thus-far. She, hunts, fishes, legislates, leads, runs marathons, and looks good (and happy) doing it. What more could you as for? She is going to take Joe Biden to school at the debate, you watch. Liberals hate her, all the more reason to like her.

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from eyeball wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Just saw Palin's (and Giuliani's) speeches at the Republican Convention. Palin was dynamite. She is everything every Democrat and Feminist admires in a woman, except that she is thoroughly Conservative. She is not exactly painful to look at, either. The Democrats really do not want her in their world; if she becomes VP, in eight (or four) years she could go for the top job. If McCain/ Palin win this, the Democrats can say goodbye to the big chair until 2020 at the earliest. Maybe Chelsea will be old enough to run by then.

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from Del in KS wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Just watched Sara Palin give a great speech. Dave I agree with you on everything except her voice. She sounds like a songbird to me. Now we know why the liberal press is in panic mode and grasping at straws to attack Sara. Their 2 horses are nags and they know it. I expect McCain/Palin to win in a landslide.

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from ishawooa wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

If you watched both conventions I doubt you are torn as to which group deserves your vote. Insofar as Gov. Palin, no one is perfect but she (and Sen. McCain) sure fair better than the majority of the Democrats when it comes to being on the side of America in this somewhat uncaring and cruel world. I wonder what cartridge she shoots at caribou and moose? Obviously not blanks like most Democrats. God bless America...especially now when we all really need to be as certain as we can about our destiny and that of our children.

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Petzal nailed it about the treatment of Palin's moose hunting. Most reporters don't hunt. They don't realize that it's one thing to bag a whitetail that weighs less than a man and drag it through a flat soybean field to your truck, and quite another thing to bag a moose whose weight is closer to a truck than a man and drag it through a swamp to camp.I know that most reporters don't hunt because I know a lot of reporters. That's because I am one, and I have startled other reporters when I told them that used to hunt dove. (They were not consoled by my suggestion that doves -- while they may be international symbols of peace -- taste great wrapped in bacon.)

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from Thomas wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

YooperJack,Thanks for the info. I knew that Mike Cox ran for office but non of the local Media covered whether he won or not. With me being gone on the road so much I never did find out till about a year or so later. Like I said Mike Cox was or is from my neck of the woods and one of the things I remember him spearheading through is the CCW license. He was for it and fought for our right to get it.Tom the Troll

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from Thomas wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

For all you Guys and Gals that remember lasts months comic strip "Non Sequitur" with the Dumb neanderthal hunters. Today's "Non Sequitur" might give a chuckle or two.Tom the Trollhttp://news.yahoo.com/comics/uclickcomics/20080903/cx_nq_uc/nq20080903

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from Jim in Mo. wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I'm watching the RNC and one thing that really sticks out is the dress of these people. They look respectable, as if they're someplace important. When I watched the DNC those people with their dress attire and goofy hats looked liked they should be on The Price Is Right. Should it surprise anyone they like Obama?

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from YooperJack wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Tom the Troll:When I first saw Sarah Palin last week, my first thought was "How did Michigan get screwed so bad with our lady governor?"Actually, I'm surprised that the Mayor of Detroit is even charged! Being a Democrat, you would think that he would be able to squash the charges, especially because he's the mayor of a primarily black city. I can't imagine anyone finding a jury in all of Detroit that would convict him!Also Tom, we elected Mike Cox! The Attorney General and Secretary of State run for office in MI. They are elected the same time as the Governor. Both the SOS and AG ran as Republicans and won.YooperJack

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from Thomas wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

My .02 is that Palin's daughter Bristol is no different from any other White, Black, Yellow, Red or any other color male or female teenager. At some point you have to let them make their own mistakes and stand on their own two feet. At least she is 17 and not 12. I know 5 years does not make much of a difference but it does. From what I have seen on the electronic media she drinks, parties and has a good time. In one photo of her she is holding a shotgun in one hand and a pistol in the other hand.http://img214.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77796_bristol-palin-guns_122_234lo.jpgTom the Troll

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I like McCain's choice, but this didn't change my mind to be a Republican voter. McCain is a better choice as President to me; as far as I am concerned regardless of his VP pick.

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from KJ wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Personally, I salute a man who can step on his own ding dong.

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from OrangeNeckInNY wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Oh Puh-lease Jim in NC, when did YOU lose your virginity? And was it to a girl? Well, were the two of you married at that time you lost it? Before you start casting stones, maybe you should look in the mirror. You're doubly hypocritical for calling "hypocrite" on the hypocrites. Palin's the Hope and Change everyone's crying out for and you're going to start picking nits on stuff that 90% of the world's population does? You know, underage sex being a crime, is a machination of politics and people. Somewhere along the way, someone said, "Hey! I think 13 is too young to get married and start a family." Then it became 14, 15, 16 and so on and so forth. Nature (or God) gave mankind the ability to start reproducing at puberty. Man made it criminal. The laws of man are in direct conflict with the laws of Nature. Not saying that I would go out and have sex with a teenager, but you know there are those out there who believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Take the Muslims for example. They still marry off their daughters at 12, 13, etc.Okay, so Bristol's 17 and pregnant. What do you suppose she do about it, as if it were even up to you? Obama's mother was 16 when she got pregnant with him, yet nobody seems to be pointing that out. His father was out "sowing his oats" while his mother handed him off to be raised by his grandparents (I'm not even going to go into what his mother was doing in Pakistan during his formative years). Where was his nuclear family? Where are his family values?Where is Obama's Hope and Change when he picks a 30-year Senator who really hasn't done anything in all that time? Doesn't it frost you that he keeps spewing this rhetoric and then goes and picks someone who is as far away from Hope and Change as Biden is?Again, you're nitpicking where there aren't any nits to be picked. She's going to have the baby. She's going to marry the father of her baby. She has the love and support of her family. What more do you want? Who are you to judge?"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."Scott, you're not going to vote for McCain because why? One vote for anyone else is one less vote for McCain and Palin. You want Palin to get her foot in the door, you can vote her in as VP first.Everybody talks about Hope and Change. Well, there SHE is, folks. Otherwise it's just going to be politics as usual. Nothing is going to change until YOU do.Or are you all afraid of change? Possibly for the better? You know you're not going to get that on the Obama/Biden ticket.That's my $0.02.

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from Gman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Why, johnl, it all comes down to fetal viability; That ain't a PC term, it's a medical term. Just as the argument around 2A is really at the margins, all this huff'n'puffin' on here by a bunch of middle-aged white guys about "death" and "murder" kinda flies in the face of consistent majority opinion that abortion should be legal. And granted, that majority hews back and forth,Reminds me of a bumper sticker I usedta see a lot of:"Against abortion? Don't have one."

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

jim in nc,Remember the phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner"?We can support and promote, or dislike and abhore something, but still recognize that no one is perfect.Yes, there are radicals on both extremes, but I don't believe either party has a monopoly on virtue or hypocracy.I just appreciate Dr Ralph calling it what it is, "pro-death", rather than the Orwellian "pro-choice".And find it rather curious that the side of the aisle that finds "pro-choice" acceptable for the innocents, usually is against the death penalty for the guilty.Maybe we need a new, more politically correct name for it.

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from Thomas wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

YooperJack,Do you think our illustrious governor will actually get rid of the mayor of Detroit. Or do you think that she will back down because he has too much dirt on her? I still say that she had him rig the ballots down in Detroit for governor. I just can not prove it. But I guess we will find out tomorrow morning what type of plea bargin she is going to let him get away with. If I was attorney general Mike Cox I would hold him to all ten felony counts and throw his butt in jail where it belongs. State Attorney General Mike Cox is a local boy from my neck of the woods,around Mayville, MI (a small po dunk town of less then 1000.) He is, Pro Gun, Pro Life and pro other things. Why a low life democratic snake like Granholm elected him puzzles me to no end. Maybe she figured if something goes wrong she can pin it on him.Tom the Troll

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from YooperJack wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

jim in nc:What would you do? I raised 4 kids. It was always in the back of my mind that it could happen to us. I resolved that, if it occurred, we would counsel strongly against abortion and I wouldn't beat up either my daughter or the boy. A shotgun wedding would've also been out of the question. Too many divorces from them. If they want to marry, fine. But don't get married simply because of a pregnancy.I think the Palin's handled this as best they could.YooperJack

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from jim in nc wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

DP: I agree that the reproductive habits of the Palins are irrelevant. But I gotta admit it really frosts me that the GOP has been screaming "family values" year after year and suddenly gets on board with premarital sex. If Bristol were Joe Biden's daughter we'd have the religious right frothing at the mouth about liberal immorality. Lots of the GOP would like to burn lesbians at the stake--unless it's Cheney's daughter. Can you spell "hypocrite?"

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I have raised five kids. Five children, five personalities and five different temperaments. If anyone thinks they can control five individual beings actions all of the time outside a boot camp or maybe even in haven't tried.At least Mrs. Palin didn't "make the problem go away" as many Liberals do. I am proud she isn't pro-death... no wait I mean choice.

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from eyeball wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Dave, I strongly disagree with you for the first time ever. I think Palin's voice is just fine. Nobody's voice has the edge to it that Hillary's has; in the deepest pit of Hell, the justly damned have to listen to Hillary singing the National Anthem over and over.And you still didn't tell us what kind of wood those shotguns are stocked with, although if it is pretty enough to make strong men mess themselves, maybe it doesn't matter.

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from scott wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

that "wou" is supposed to be "you" obviously

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from Scott wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Tony C.wou asked "When are the national parties going to get it right and give us some good middle-of-the-road candidates we can really get behind?"what do you think McCain is? He certainly isn't a Republican in the sense of Robert Taft, Barry Goldwater or Ronald Reagan. His best bud is Lieberman, and he sided with Kennedy on the immigration issue, what more could you ask for.too me basically what you want is even less of a decision. How bout in 4 years we just have one person/party run for the presidency, we'll call them the Republicrats.Me on the other hand want more of a choice, I want third, fourth, fifth partys, I want the full spectrum of ideas to be laid out before us. I would love to vote for Palin, if she were the head of the ticket I'd be down, but I can't vote for McCain. And no I"m not voting for Obama. I"ll be voting either Baldwin of the constitution party or Barr of the libertarian party, whichever will be on the ballot in Virginia, if niether are then I will walk out without voting. Is McCain going to lose my vote, NO, he never had my vote.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Yooper,I agree, I thought her voice was fine. Wasn't screeching like fingernails on a blackboard, nothing like Hillary or Nancy Pelosi.Looking forward to hearing her tonight, and hopeful that it's a positive message and not an attack.Getting REAL TIRED of those.Really enjoyed Fred Thompson's speech last night, he took 'em to the woodshed with a smile on his face and no yelling.

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from YooperJack wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Is my hearing gone? I didn't notice anything wrong with her voice. Hillary's voice is almost unique. I hadn't heard anything similar since hearing tapes of Adolf Hitler.Anyone who criticizes Sara Palin for firing her brother-in-law must both drink and drive, and abuse children.YooperJack

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Beekeeper,Unfortunately you are correct.I'd never run for office. Any of my youthful indiscretions wouldn't bother me, I could plead stupidity, but would be terribly unfair to the innocent other people they would involve.Witness what's happening to the Palin family right now.Disgraceful.Don't much care for BHO, but he got this one right, kids...especially young ones...should be off limits.

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from Beekeeper wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

As long as individuals (and their family members) have to undergo the media equivalent of a "body cavity search" we will never attract quality people into the presidencey. Let's face it, by the time we get a "worthy" candidate with name recognition interested in the Whitehouse they have committeed so many political shenanigans that they can never endure scrutiny from the media which has become more akin to tabloid journalists. Not to mention the fact that these clowns (the media) don't mind making up stuff, then printing a retraction on page 56. Example: Dan RatherAdd in the fact that political parties are so polarized on ideals that "middle of the road" folks don't fit the mold anymore. You must be an extremist to be attractive to the "party". Our political party system is definitely broken!If I were hiring for the position of president I would have sent the whole slate back and asked for a new one...

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from MMM wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Is Sarah Palin 5 months pregnant? Does she totally control her daughter. Man, if she can, I'd like to know how to have total control over my 3 daughters. Is her daughter running for VP. Man, politics. I liked it when Rip Torn said "the only thing worse than a politition is a child molester"

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from Tom Sorenson wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Right on, Dave. Regarding her speaking voice, too. Oh well - the woman hunts moose, she can't be too bad - of course her decision to involve herself in politics is a mark against her.

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from jstreet wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Has anyone else noticed the resemblance that Sarah Palin has to Peggy Hill from the "king of the hill" tv show on fox.It's uncanny (and sorta funny).Jim

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from Tony C. wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I was excited about McCain/Palin when she was first announced. I like the idea that she's a hunter, NRA member, etc.But this teen pregnancy/state trooper-brother-in-law crap makes her look like white trash. Sorry. That's the way I see it.I'll vote for them, but I'm really not voting for them. I'm voting against Obama.When are the national parties going to get it right and give us some good middle-of-the-road candidates we can really get behind?I had a great friend with a colorful vocabulary who had a great way of expressing it when someone had messed up.He said that person had "stepped on his ding-dong" with the decision in question.I think McCain may have stepped on his ding-dong when he picked Palin.

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from Chaz wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Alaska is alright. Look what they've given us in the last couple of months: Corey Cogdell, Matt Emmons and Sarah Palin. Nice.

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from Mark-1 wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

-Yes. It is easier to build a temp homestead next to a shot moose and eat it than to cut it up and pack it out.-A. H. Fox doubles??? Slurp!-After watching the media coverage of this election it makes me wonder where journalism has gone. The media coverage is about as deep as a bird bath. Disgusting.

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from Jay wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I agree 100%. I can't believe that there are folks on these blogs that are going to vote for Obama. Amazing to me.

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from krj1944 wrote 4 years 40 weeks ago

like most the media leaves something to be desired but so does palin,we currently have a moron in office,we don't need another one,time for some real leadership whom

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from Rocky Mtn Hunter wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Hopefully that Palin will be our next VP and I can get a Freebie Moose hunt from her, maybe she will even guide me, as the guy in the WH now would not know a Moose from a Roadrunner. Talk of change, it will be chagne if OBAMA get to be Pres. It's sad to know what we did to the Indians who owned this land we now claim, and how we have let two other races take control of us. Come Jan. 20, will be a day that History will well remember. Kinda like Dewey did when Truman was sworn in. I yet contend that the persons running for Pres. and VP should come from each's convention and forget the Damn Electroal College and Supreme Court. Let the person with the most votes be elected, after each convention, as well as the VP. We need a new 3rd party in the running, as we have gotten away from the basics. Gonnna vote this year? Not me, I will not give up a day of hunting in the Bitteroots and buy 5dollar gas to go vote for the crumbs running.. One last, OBAMA has wished a zillion times he had chosen Hillary as his running mate. But the Hillary supporters are not all gonna move over to McCain and Palin, but enough that he wins. Nothing more stubburn that a Afro-Amer. and thats a Flop-eared mule, as I had the AA for a Neighbor and I plowed the farm with a MULE.Time to bring out the peace pipe.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

It's just fun to watch a black man justify an allegedly sexist remark... if the President can use sexist remarks can we use racist remarks? Where are the boundaries now?Besides... everyone knows who the pigs in lipstick are. Lets make a list, shall we? Rosie O'Donnell has to be tops. Barbra, Oprah, Hillary and I'm not even trying.

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from wow wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Hey Dr. Ralph-Click this link and then explain why its ok for McCain to use the phrase, but Obama can't? Seriously...please explain this to me....i'm all liberal and stupid and stuff....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMMSeriously, where are you people from? Do you just blindly follow what people tell you?It's freaking mind boggling!

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Obama's already reverting to Chicagoland Gangsta tactics... he must be scared too! Called Sarah a "pig with lipstick" and now he's making up excuses which the leftwing media is eating up like a pile of $hit and pretending to like it.

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from Joe Ray wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Before everyone gets too carried away, could we find out a little more about Sarah's moose hunting experience. A moose hunter hunts every season as much as he possibly can. How many times has Sarah gone moose hunting? How many shots has she taken and how many moose has she killed? Did she gut it and quarter it herself?Going moose hunting once does not make one a moose hunter just as fishing once does not make one a fisherman.Lets get the whole story before we fall all over the VP candidate.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Are you scared? My name was a link to Osama I mean Obama talking about his Muslim faith... ooooops (I think he meant Christian). Freudian slip?

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from Visitor wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Scott, after reading your post, you would probably be mad at me because my best friend shoots a .270 but you like a 7MM....

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from Gman wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

You're really grasping at straws now, Ralphie boy, harping on a typo. I actually started to do it in ALL CAPS to pay homage to Walt Smith, but it wasn't worth the effort.BTW, my audience is a global community of electrical engineers, mostly the guys doing theoretical networking research, so they do notice typos; they're a far tougher audience than the bozos who haven't done their follow-ups on Sally Lou Palin and her false "reforms" up in Alaska. She's just another Republican roundheel, suckling at the Federal trough. You really have to lighten up and stop taking all this stuff so seriously. You'll have a coronary before deer season.I wouldn't punch your name or your nose; for all I know, you're Buddy Hinton and you want to show me a disgusting picture. I'm a peaceful man, like Gary Cooper in High Noon.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Here's your hero spindoctor Gman... how good are you? Punch my name and start explaining.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Primitive... no coherent thought process involved, and one would think anyone that makes money writing leftwingsocialist propaganda would at least know how to spell and use proper capitalization. But then again I'm sure your usual audience doesn't notice.

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from Gman wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

The Pledge of Allegiance is pure theater.Defending an unpopular cause or person because it's a Constitutional right is another.Give me a public defender over a Plegde freak any day.

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from Jay wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Adding fuel to the fire; Obama's muslim faith interview:http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/

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from Wow wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Walt Smith-Where are you from? Because apparently the news is a bit delayed. Those "doesn't say the pledge' crap has been proven to be false.See video...of Barack saying the pledge:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD6bKaVW-lsAnd " how did they even make it to where they are feeling that way..."They got to where they are because those aren't true. Its mind bogglling how slow so many Americans can be.Get your facts straight, and then make a decision.Don't just follow like a mindless sheep.Freaking Amazing...

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from Rob in Minnesota wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

Is there even any evidence that Palin ever shot a moose, or even shot at a moose? For that matter, has she ever hunted apart from a political photo-op? From what I can tell, there's no verification. It seems like people just want a new Teddy Roosevelt (in high heels), they don't care if the reality matches up with the rhetoric.

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from atmiller wrote 5 years 31 weeks ago

I don't understand how the media can attack the 17 year old daughter. David Letterman attacked her, yet he has a child outside of marriage. At least the 17 year old is getting married to the baby's father! But I guess it's okay for him because he's a Dem. Do as I say and not as I do.Clinton was banging interns in the Oval Office, and Obama was conceived out of wedlock. I think all of these hypocritical Liberals need to back off, because it's going to come back to bite them.

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from Bill wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Buckstopper, you said it "when a lawmaker panders to a special interest be that a particular industry or handout crowd they screw up every time". I can also see the same thing happening when people vote for a president because they pander specifically to one thing [i.e. 2A] we're going to elect the wrong person every time and "screw it up".

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from Walt Smith wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Buckstopper, I totaly agree with your statement, BRAVO!. I cannot believe that any AMERICAN democrat or republican could possibly fathom the thought of voting for obama when the man refuses to say the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, or sing the STAR SPANGLED BANNER!! And to top that off his wife states to the decomacratic convention that "for the first time in my life I love my country". ARRRGHHH!!! How can you vote for people who don't love our country? How did they even make it to where they are feeling that way and who helped them get there?? Thank GOD for John McCain and Sara Palin!! COUNTRY FIRST!!!

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from buckstopper wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

As for the last 8 yrs under Bush, it seems to me the economy didn't go south until the Dumbocrats(thanks Ralph) took over Congress.If I recall also, Clintons economy didn't do so well until Mr. Newt and the boys took over.Fact is, when it comes to the economy it is EASIER for the President and Congress to mess it up than help it. It's the hardworking American people who actually make it work. When the lawmakers pander to a special interest be that a particular industry or to the handout crowd they screw up everytime. Such as opening up credit to risky or unqualified individuals, hence a CREDIT CRISIS. We would do better to actually teach young people how to balance a checkbook instead of applying for PELL GRANTS and mortgages they cannot pay.

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from peter wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Macain made a great choose for VP. i aready wanted him to win and i hope this will convince otheres to vote for him and not THE ANTI-CHRIST OBAMA

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from WyleECoyote wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

All because someone can haul a moose out of the backcountry does not make this person (man or woman) presidential timber. Nor should being an NRA member grant an individual a vote automatically.A person that talks about book banning,no sex ed,supporting the bridge to no where (and taking the money even when it was eliminated) is no hero to the American citizen. Although she supports the second admendmant, I see signs that she would toss out the first at a whim. There is also an air of croneyism that is disconcerting at best.I fear that both sides are dangerously incompetant. Neither side is to be trusted. EVER.

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from Kenny wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I hunted in Alaska last october for caribou and anyone who wants to shoot a moose in the tundra or bogy bottoms and get the meat out is tough! Caribou was hard enough.I'd be more dissapointed in her if she hadn't tried to get that trooper fired, He admits to illegaly shooting a moose while a wildlife officer, but claims he didn't know it was wrong. What? and he didn't get throwed out then, and the department concluded he was drinking on duty and he only got 5 day susspension. She should be praised for firing the commissioner if that kind of abuses were being tollorated. As for her daughter, what is she supposed to do lock her in a closet at least she is not hiding her, she is standing by her durring a difficult situation, I'm very sure she wishes it didn't happen, but I think she is handling it correctly.By the way, I liked her voice fine.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK, I sleep all night and I work all day. Good detective work Creosote... Now I finally understand the "I cut down trees I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra" lyric!Where you been Buddy/HAIRY? I was beginning to think you didn't like us anymore.

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from HAIRY wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Sarah looking very hot!http://nimbusters.org/forum/forum.php?board=8

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from Mr. Creosote wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Can you guys not see the obvious? Forget all the debate about Sarah Palin will do this and Sarah Palin won't do that.Instead, you should be asking yourself "Who IS Sarah Palin?"Is she truly the female governor of Alaska and John McCain's running mate, or is she a really funny British dude who looks good in drag?FACT: Sarah Palin shares the same last name with Michael Palin of Monty Python fame.FACT: Of all the Python members who portrayed female characters, only Michael Palin's were truly "womanly."FACT: Some of Sarah Palin's earlier photographs showing her with short hair bear a striking resemblance to Michael Palin publicity stills of the same era.FACT: "Sarah Palin" or whoever she is, is the governor of Alaska.FACT: Alaska has lots of lumberjacks.FACT: Michael Palin sang the Lumberjack song.Coincidence? I think not.I think we as a nation need to take a good, long look at "Sarah Palin" before we wake up on November 5, 2008 to find our Vice-President Elect fish-dancing through the Rose Garden.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Wow Gman, that Anne's one jealous small town loser... amazing that she didn't mention Sarah has the highest approval rating of any Governor in America. And I'm sure no one in Chicago has a bad word to say about the Obamessiah.

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from Gman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Sounds like old Sally Lou would fit right in the Bush White House.www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/about-sarah-palin-a-letter-from-anne-kilkenny/741/

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from O Garcia wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I didn't find anything wrong with Sarah Palin's voice. I think she looks nice, too. (And so do her daughters - OMG, I will be damned to hell!)She's the Republican "rock star."As has been noted by the media, Palin can continue with her speech even if the teleprompter goes past. She can ad lib, while the Dems' rock star (Obama) cannot.Obama has a great voice, and he sounds, and looks right when making a "prepared" speech, reading the teleprompter. Has anybody in the starstruck media actually listened to him or watched him when he's answering interviews? when he hasn't had time to pre-read the questions?Has anybody ever heard Obama answer an 'impromptu' question? make an 'impromptu' speech? is he still eloquent?He's a phony, IMO.

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from Shaky wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Greg; the VP doesn't stay in D.C. all the time. The present V.P. had time to shoot his quail hunting partner. As D.E.P. already said, SCARY.

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from Greg wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hello Clay and Mike, been a while since I blogged with you guys missed it its alot of fun. A Woman that has a family such as hers(which pretty much seems to be the AMERICAN way)and hunts and fishes, damn thats just about enough for me! When she get in up on the hill it will screw her life up. Cant kill a moose in D.C. LOL.

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from james ti wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

mike diehl,did you miss the part where they banned the bible in schools? but it's ok to replace that with your liberal trash!

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from Greg wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

johnl, you're killin me! just spit my drink all over my keyboard!!! In redneck/hippie terms(oh yes very conservitive terms) I dig this chick!! I think she scares the hell out of the establishment and I love it!

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

In fact, in his speech last night, McCain urged people to perform real service in their communities:My friends, if you find faults with our country, make it a better one. If you're disappointed with the mistakes of government, join its ranks and work to correct them. Enlist--enlist in our armed forces. Become a teacher. Enter the ministry. Run for public office. Feed a hungry child. Teach an--an illiterate adult to read. Comfort the afflicted. Defend the rights of the oppressed.Our country will be the better and you will be the happier because nothing brings greater happiness in life than to serve a cause greater than yourself.-------------------------------The following is NOT John McCain.Our call for "community organizer" jokes brought some amusing ones:• Nelles Hamilton: What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a pit bull? Teeth.• Dagny Billings: What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a seeing-eye dog? Even a blind man can see the dog is actually helping someone.• Michael Roberson: What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a Chihuahua? The Chuhuahua will eventually shut up.• Bob Vorick: What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a puppy? One will grow up to become a loyal servant of mankind.• O. Nara: What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a shih tzu? Zu.Left-liberal blogger Ezra Klein, meanwhile, argues that it's racist to make fun of "community organizers." (It seems that Barack Obama, a former "community organizer," is African-American.) Which gives us another idea for a joke:What's the difference between a "community organizer" and a pit bull?It's a black thing, you wouldn't understand.

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from Just Jesting wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Obama/Biden Vs McCain/Palin.Choose between "a babe in the woods," or "a babe in the Whitehouse."

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Click on this link and say to yourself, THIS IS SARAH PALIN!http://www.handgunrepairshop.com/Mother.jpg

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

“Armed women deter rapists over 400 times each day.”-bumper sticker“Armed women equals polite men.”-Charles Curley

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from Mike Diehl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

"so it's ok to ban the bible from anywhere..."Where in the United States has anyone banned the bible? Was there some sort of book burning? Has someone told you you can't purchase, own, or read a bible in your home, church, cary, library?I always knew radical lefties were "poor pitiful me I've been such a helpless victim" wimps, but that sort of thing seems to be catchin' among feckless bible thumpers.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Man, I wish I could write like this guy.Victor Davis Hanson:In short, Sarah Palin is the emblem of what feminism was supposed to be all about: an unafraid, independent, audacious woman, who soared on her own merits without the aid of a patriarchal jumpstart, high-brow matrimonial tutelage and capital, and old-boy liaisons and networking.Instead this entire sorry episode of personal invective against, and jealousy toward, Sarah Palin is surreal. Given the rising backlash, Palin Derangement Syndrome may prove to be the one thing, fairly or not, that sinks Barack Obama.

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from Thos. B. Fowler wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Ok, boys...let's holster our weapons, and remember that this is a gun blog.We are more united than divided...let's keep to civil discourse.Tom F.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

When are the Dumbocrats going to realize they are not running against W.? Sorry boys, but the last eight years are over. We've had a year and a half of a Democrat controlled congress and all I've seen are gas prices doubled and a bunch of finger pointing. No solutions. Besides, how can you lose? McCain is a liberal compared to me and Obama is so far left he fell off California and ended up in Hawaii. This stupid election was a gimme for the left from the start and now they've somehow managed to screw it up... and I'm not even surprised. No wonder you're all crying.

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from james ti wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

a lot of freedoms are not going to mean anything if obama gets elected. as i said before, once they get done with the 2a they'll come after the rest. you have no rights. just shut up, listen, and do as you are told!

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from mike wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Another 84,000 jobs lost.I know what we should do. We should elect the party that has been in charge over the last 8 years. They must be able to fix the problem, because they created it.vote mccain. We'll have our guns...but no jobs...but its all good.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Get out your Constitution and show it to me Mr. Diehl. It says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" I sure as hell don't understand how that can be interpreted as a separation of church and state. In fact separating the two make be construed as prohibiting the free exercise thereof in my world.

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from Bruce S wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

TONY c YOUR A IDIOT- SO WHAT IF HER DAUGHTER IS PREGNANT?? DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER ABILITIES AND THERE IS NO PROOF AS OF YET REGARDING HER BROTHER IN LAW ACCUSATIONS...NOT TOO MENTION HE SUPPOSEDLY ABUSED HER SISTER AND SUPPOSEDLY THREATENED TO KILL HER PARENTS??? WHY WOULD YOU EVEN BOTHER MENTIONING THIS ON THIS SITE UNLESS YOUR A IDIOT AND HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO???

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

To johnl:When I wrote the comment, I generally had in mind radical libertarians. In my (admittedly limited) observation, American libertarians tend to come in two main strains: traditional libertarians, who want a return to a strict reading of the U.S. Constitution, and radical libertarians, who believe that the U.S. Constitution, and the resulting republican democracy, needs a serious overhaul, because even a strict interpretation of it yields too much government.But those other forms of government are worth thinking through, too, if only to understand why we reject them, and thus better appreciate the form of government we do choose. If our abhorrence for, say, anarchism is purely visceral, we can hardly say we've made a willful choice to eschew it in favor of republican democracy. To quote George Will, "[T]he viscera are not the seat of wisdom."To eyeball:Schools, public or private, are one part education and four parts enculturation. The question is which values they inculcate. And I hear there's a culture war on.The only thought I have here is that there's a difference between what's available at school and what's required. That is, there's a difference between whether a child can check out "Daddy's Roommate" from the school library if he so chooses and whether he is forced to read the book for class. Having given it only precursory mental attention, I would call a ban on the former censorship and a ban on the latter a legitimate curricula decision for school boards.That being said, I'm deeply dismayed that Mark Twain's "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" has been banned from the curricula and even libraries of some schools because of a particular word taken out of historical and literary context. I am a Missouri boy who grew up with Mark Twain's books and tried to match them with Huck-and-Tom styled "adventures" of my own. (Just ask my mother -- she remembers.) To deprive young boys of these books seems borderline criminal.

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from Zermoid wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hey Guys, slightly off topic but something I came across on my local news site:Beaver County, Pa - A Beaver County man says he believes he broke no laws by carrying a gun across the street from the site of a rally of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.John Noble, 50, of Industry, said he was not attending the event Friday night in Beaver and wanted only to hand out fliers about gun rights.Noble said he was in a park across from the Beaver County Courthouse with his wife, Janet, an hour before Obama arrived. He was eating an apple and holding a Bible when four officers and a police dog approached Noble, disarmed and arrested him.He said he offered the officers fliers, but they weren't interested."It's my right to keep and bear arms. It's completely legal what I was doing," Noble said Saturday. "I was about to hand out some gun-right fliers. I never had a chance."State police Trooper Shawn Schexnaildre said in a news release that Noble breached a secured perimeter of a presidential candidate political rally with a fully loaded, holstered and exposed handgun.Noble's actions created a clear public alarm and caused a significant breakdown in rally security because officers had to leave manned security posts to arrest and disarm Noble, the trooper said.Misdemeanor disorderly conduct charges will be forthcoming against Noble, said Schexnaildre.Noble said he openly was carrying a Glock 9 mm semi-automatic handgun in a retention holster, which prevents the gun from being removed without activating a secret release. He said he has carried the gun every day for 23 years for protection but never has drawn it or had to use it."I carry it all over Beaver County, and I never had anything happen," said Noble, describing himself as a self-employed contractor who installs fencing for horses and cattle.Noble said he has a license to carry a concealed weapon. A self-described activist and "law-abiding citizen," Noble said he has distributed fliers on gun rights to police agencies, but this was the first time he tried to do so in public.Noble said he was shackled and held for about three hours. Police kept his gun, worth about $600, he said.He said he has an attorney but would not provide the name. Noble said he's not sure how he'll respond to the incident.Asked if it was wise to carry a gun near the Obama event, Noble said: "His rights don't trump mine."Seems its being reported that the PA State Police may have violated a mans rights for being in a public place with his legally carried sidearm.....Just interested to know if anyone from that area had some personal info on the happenings!FYI, In Pennsylvania, persons 18 years of age and older whom are not prohibited by law from owning firearms may openly carry a handgunin plain sight with no license except in vehicles*, cities ofthe first class** (Philadelphia) and where prohibited specificallyby statute.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

eyeball,BRAVO!nothing to add

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from james ti wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

so it's ok to ban the bible from anywhere you want but not ok to ban offensive books that our kids don't need to be reading at 4 yrs old! boy are we in trouble!eyeball,you must have heard something i haven't. i hear obama talking but not saying a d**n thing about how he's going to save the world. i guess we'll just have to wait for him and biden to get off eachother's lap to get any type of straight answers as to how he plans to teach us all how to live.

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from eyeball wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Emmanuel;Sorry, no links; this adventure happened in 1994, shortly after Al Gore invented the Internet, and you have to pay the local papers' archives department to let you back that far. The Milwaukee Journal gave it scant coverage anyway, burying it deep inside the second section, as I recall. Too bad the librarian didn't put a cross up instead of that magazine; the liberals from fifty miles around would have been railing against it rather than for it, and the story would have made the front page above the crease.As a conservative, I'm not for censorship; I'm for sending kids to kindergarten and not having to worry that they will have "Daddy's Roommate" read to them before recess. What seems to liberals to be us intruding on their freedom is usually just us refusing to swallow what they want to feed us. I'm delighted with Sarah Palin because she doesn't kick the ground and stammer about her beliefs, even though they involve (gasp) hunting and (gag) Christianity.Oh, Frank Fox, McCain's only plan is NOT just to drill. That is part of his plan, yes, because we have a fossil fuel based civilization at the time of this writing. His plan is to drill enough, and dig enough compliance coal, to tide us over until the nuclear/ geothermal/ solar/etc. tech, which he will rigorously pursue, has come far enough to take over (which, by the way, it CAN'T do as of right now). He has promised 30 nuclear reactors; sound like all he wants to do is drill, drill, drill? Obama has mistaken a supply issue for a conservation issue, and will govern accordingly and wrongly if he is elected.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

No, drilling alone is NOT going to solve the problem. NOBODY is saying that, get your heads out!But it's not mutually exclusive.We CAN do more than one thing at a time.Even the new guru, T. Boone Pickens (and god I'm getting tired of his commercials) says we should be developing all of the available sources....wind,solar, nuclear, and drilling,etc.Who is stopping those developments?Who blocked building of new refineries, and new nuclear facilities?There's your problem.Oil companies aren't saying we (or China, India, Russia, France...think Nuclear)shouldn't develop other energy sources. Blocking of increasing oil production is not the answer either.Waaah, we can't do more than one thing at a time. So, let's do nothing.?????????????????Oil companies are in business to make a profit, for them (to be able to stay in business) and their stockholders (which is us, if you care to check your retirement plans).They explore, develop, produce and sell. To condemn them and demand that "those evil oil companies" spend their money (ours actually) to find other ways to put themselves out of business is just plain dumb.The "windfall profits" business is due to increased worldwide demand, as more countries become modernized (see..China and India using cars not bicycles), it's not due to price gouging of the same existing customers.If you made widgets and one customer would pay you a $1 each, and one new customer would pay you $1.25, where you gonna sell?

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from frank fox wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I love my guns as much as any man here, and I would fight for them to the death, but there is more to this election than that. Even die-hard oil executives admit that drilling isn't going to solve our energy problems, not with China and India about to gobble as much of the stuff as we do. The only plan McCain and Palin have is drill.I'm voting for Obama--he's smart, he's sensible, and I think he's going to be a terrific president.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Emmanuel,Respectfully,(truly) I'd like to ask a question."As for which political affiliation likes forcing its views on others, I'm distrustful all around, as I believe a journalist should be. Both parties promote their particular brand of government intrusion. We might debate chocolate, vanilla or strawberry, but we're still eating ice cream. I like to ask why we're eating ice cream in the first place, instead of something else."I assume you are talking about Democrat vs Republican, or Liberal vs Conservative forms and "ice cream" means philosophies of governing?What might be the "something else" available.I'm not sure where you were going.Things that popped into mind were anarchy, monarchy, dictatorship, pure democracy (rule of the simple majority)?Please explain further your thoughts.

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hi eyeball,That's a fascinating story -- I'd like to read more about it if you have any links. It’s unfortunate that the librarians wouldn't take the magazine off the front rack. Free speech is worth fighting for, but the difference between a Profile in Courage and Don Quixote is in picking one's battles. (A lot of young progressives don't seem to understand this. In their minds, the protesters in St. Paul this week were just as righteous as the protesters in Selma, Ala., were back in the 1960s. They are of course incredibly wrong.)The “Spanish Inquisitions” are real. I grew up the son of a musician, and my father tells me that the choir teachers are catching grief for works such as Handel's "Messiah." This is ludicrous. Most of the choral canon is religious because for centuries the church was the only entity that funded composers. The classics are all about God, and to understand the history of Western music you have to sing about God. No one cried foul when we read "Paradise Lost" in English class because it’s understood that we didn’t get from Chaucer to Nabokov without Milton. (Maybe this is different now?)As for which political affiliation likes forcing its views on others, I'm distrustful all around, as I believe a journalist should be. Both parties promote their particular brand of government intrusion. We might debate chocolate, vanilla or strawberry, but we're still eating ice cream. I like to ask why we're eating ice cream in the first place, instead of something else.As you suggest, my “typo” remark was scattershot, ad hominem and irrelevant to the discussion. It obviously wasn’t directed at you, and it's I who owe the apologies. I’m strict about language because I write for a living, but I don’t hold others who have no professional reason to know the minutiae of English to the same standards, which are all too often capricious anyhow. But I do wish some folks took more pride in the language (a cause for which Mr. Petzal has advocated), especially if those folks believe English ought to be our “official” tongue.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

"There is no separation of church and state it was made up whole cloth by the Supreme Court"Pure baloney. Your claim is as bad as the anti-gun liberals claiming that the 2nd Amendment is a collective right administered by states not an individual one.

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from eyeball wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Oops, mixed numbers; should read, 'When it comes to forcing his/her views on others, no conservative can stand up to a liberal; he/ she has no chance.' My apologies, Emmanuel.

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from eyeball wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Gman, Emmanuel, Gary;A few years back in Greenfield, Wis., a public librarian put an 'alternative' magazine on the magazine rack in the dead front of the check-out desk, the desk you have to pass if you are going to enter the library. The magazine was eye level to a four year old. And on the cover was a full page photo two men naked to the waist, deep kissing each other.Needless to say, a few parents complained, and there was good attendance at the county board meeting that week. And when parents in attendance protested that their small children had to walk right past that desk, the librarian (and every other liberal from a fifty mile radius) vigorously defended the magazine's placement there, calling it 'censorship' to remove it. The board chairman sniffed righteously about how difficult it is to define pornography, would you put Michelangelo's David in jockey shorts, etc. In short, the concerned parents (we) were simply shouted down. Nobody denied the publication the right to exist; nobody denied the library the right to subscribe to it. We just wanted it put where small children didn't have to look straight at it every time they went into the library for a Dr. Seuss book. And we were spoken to the way one speaks to a retarded person whose second language is English.I don't know the circumstances behind Palin and the 'book banning,' but it sounds a lot like what I sat through. Ever-tolerant liberals force garbage on us every single day in the name of free speech, and then cry "Spanish Inquisition" when somebody prays a 30 second prayer at the start of a high school football game, or says "Merry Christmas" in a public school. When it comes to forcing their views on others, no conservative can stand up to a liberal; he has no chance. And Emmanuel, if you have read this far, I can only hope my poor use of English and my many typos haven't offended you.

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from Gman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I figured you'd chime in, Dr. Ralph.I always wondered if you considered yourself a transcendentalist or a transient mentalist.If you don't like my posts, stop reading them. I find yours hilarious and representative of a certain style like Grandma Moses; it's called American primitive. You should copyright them.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Ann Coulter said it best today:"But at least liberal reporters had finally found someone their own size to pick on: a 17 year old girl."

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from Zermoid wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

On the bridge thing, I dunno, I can see someone looking at the project to build a bridge to connect part of the community to the rest of the area as being a good idea and then when in charge of actually paying for the outrageous bill for it saying No! at the last minute.As far as the daughter, I actually agree with Obama for once, it should be a family matter.What really pi$$es me off is the media harping on her kids and newborn! Wondering how she can run for office with a family, when if she were a Man instead of a Woman I'll bet they would never say a word about it! Why the double standard in this day and age? It's sickening if you ask me.

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from W. Scott A wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Just got an e-mail from a friend in Ireland -- guess they hadn't heard of Sarah yet; but still thought you might like it. . .'We, in Ireland, can't figure out why you people are even bothering to hold an election in the United States.On one side, you had a pants wearing female lawyer, married to another lawyer who can't seem to keep his pants on, who just lost a long and heated primary against a lawyer, who goes to the wrong church, who is married to yet another lawyer, who doesn't even like the country her husband wants to run!Now...On the other side, you have a nice old war hero whose name starts with the appropriate 'Mc' terminology, married to a good looking younger woman who owns a beer distributorship!What in God's name are ya lads thinkin over in the colonies!

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Dr. Ralph: It's perfectly legal to bring a Bible to school, and to discuss it as mythology or literature. What's illegal is to force that Bible on your fellow schoolmates as the inerrant Word of God. And that's an American idea that goes back to this country's founding. When Thomas Jefferson died, he wanted three of his accomplishments listed on his grave: The Declaration of Independence (he authored it), the University of Virgina (he founded it), and the Virginia Statue for Religious Freedom(he authored it).As for those offensive and dangerous books, it's about context: The Old Testament contains disturbing behavior such as murder and rape. To read it as a uniform endorsement of those behaviors is just as foolish as reading "A Clockwork Orange" as endorsing the murder and rape it contains. (If you want my take, that novel is a scathing indictment of totalitarianism and B.F. Skinners behaviorislt ideology.)Now can we please talk about guns? If Sarah Palin's cartridge of choice is the .300 Win Mag, I would rather discuss that.

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from Gary wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

First, I have to say that I don't think anyone should be attempting to score political points at the expense of a seventeen year old girl who is probably scared out of her mind. She made a mistake, and I for one have yet to meet a perfect human being.Having said that, has anyone actually looked at her record and not her chest?She is not the self-styled reformer that she makes herself out to be.Here are just a few illustrative points:1) She ran for govenenor promising to support the famous "bridge to nowhere," it was only after she figured out that it was politically expedient to oppose it that she decided to be against it. Uh, can we say flip flopper?2) She instituted a wind-fall profit on the oil companies, which the last time I checked was something most Republicans were opposed to. The oil companies then proceeded to cut production by thirteen percent, thus making gas more expensive for everyone.3) As mayor of Wasilla she cut property taxes and gave tax breaks to local companies and large landholders, but to make up for budget shortfalls she increased the sales tax and extended it to food, thus shifting the tax burden to the less advantaged.4) Oh, and most importantly for me, she did attempt to ban certain books from the public library. As I have read many times on this blog, "you can't pick and choose what amendments you support."My point is this. I think people who see Senator Obama or Govenenor Palin as a departure from politics as usual are severly misguided and bordering on delusional.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

She's the Dumbocrat's worst nightmare... a girly girl who can kick Hillary's a$$.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Dr. Ralph, don't be so mean to them.They just want children to be able to read anything they want to, good for them or not, unless it's that nasty old bible. Good call.Why, we wouldn't want to influence their minds and development of their own unique personalities.We have to build their self-esteem you know, by allowing them to do anything they want.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Yeah G-man, the person who decides what books are too dangerous are the parents, I guess that's why leftwingsocialists work so hard to keep the Bible out of children's hands. There is no separation of church and state it was made up whole cloth by the Supreme Court just like the miraculous discovery in 1978 that abortion was legal all along. Damn I hate to tell you this but I think your posts are about as rewarding as reading Buddy Hinton's links... Sarah hit one so far out of the park last night it may not have come down yet. Maybe if we're lucky it will land in San Francisco on Dianne Feinstein's head!

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

How do you like her now? My wife and I looked at each other after Giuliani and Palin's double barrel blast at the Dumbocrats and we both said "she's the one who should be running for president". Obviously I'm not alone... I saw a poster board in an SUV this morning that said "Sarah in '08... and '12... and '16. We've got a new rock star and she hunts, rides snowmobiles, wants to build more piplines from Alaska and looks damn good doing it. And they thought Obama could give a speech.

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from Gman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Yooper, I have been reading Audacity of Hope. Obama is pretty well informed on the decline of federal funding of blue sky research in the physical sciences, so I don't think he's clueless about energy policy.But you have a point. Because I have a broadband Internet hookup and 99.99% of the material I need is available to me via the Web or telephone, I have driven just 60,000 miles in the last 9 years. And those telecom technologies were originally developed under blue sky DoD grants.If John McCain doesn't use the Internet, can he effectively use the bully pulpit to push next-gen research?James Ti, the person who should decide what books are too "offensive and dangerous" for their kids are their parents - each child's parents, not 300 right-wing tightasses deciding Clockwork Orange encourages bad behavior. Letting any public official decide what constitutes "offensive and dangerous" is, well, offensive and dangerous.

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from mike wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

So all this chatter about the liberal biased left media...ok...well here are some words right from Rove and O'Reilly.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGenNjOAIFace the facts. The republicans f'd up, now they need to let someone else come in an fix the mess.

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from Del in KS wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hardwood,Big cities are full of liberals willing to sell their soul for a handfull of beans or Nobama's BS. I talk to many of them everyday at my job with the USPS. It frustrates the heck out of me. When folks ask if I like Sara I say was Churchill a Brit, Is a pig pork. Hell yes I like her. Now the lib press will do everything they can to stop her. Expect them to come up with an October surprise. Remember Dan Rather's little trick. He took the fall but if you believe his bosses weren't involved I have some land in Florida for sale.

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from Scott in Southern Illinois wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hey james ti,.300 Win Mag eh? Nice all around choice for Alaska. I was up there back in 2004. When I asked a guide what he recommended in a rifle, he stated the .300 would do nicely for just about anything up there. There's always the old debate against the 30-06 when it comes to paper performance, but having both rifles, the .300 does seem to give a slight edge. Thanks.

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from Carney wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Then again, he did use the word "mellifluous" just for flare -- maybe saying, "amen" is just some literary device we don't understand yet...

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from Carney wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

GMan, Hunter Nut, et alia,DEP is obviously a "religious nut". Did you see he used the word, "AMEN"?!?!?! That's blasted church language!Go get 'im!

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from hardwoodjdc wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I live in a rural community in Michigans thumb, so I recognize I am somewhat isolated. However I do comunicate via email with other parts of the country and I am yet to come accross anyone who supports Obama yet the media keeps telling me that he is leading in their polls. Any thoughts? Bt the way Palin is a great choice in my mind.

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from Thos. B. Fowler wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Go, Sarah!It will be a rough ride, but you can take it. There IS no other choice this year, for shooters & hunters, that I can see.Tom Fowler

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from james ti wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

the book thing, the trooper thing, the bridge thing. all overblown. if that's the best they can do palin is in good shape. i was in alaska and remember when palin sold the jet. laughed my butt off when she put it on e-bay! if i found out a trooper had drank in his patrol car or shot a moose without a liscence with his service revolver, i would have had him thrown in jail not just fired! palin rejected the bridge when she found out it was not as first proposed. it was suposed to connect more than just 500 villagers on one island but became a circus and she decided it wasn't worth the money or bulls**t. how many governers in the U.S. has an 80% approval rating? i think she shoots a 300 win. mag. but not 100% sure. think i heard that somewhere.

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from YooperJack wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Gman:I really do envy you! You have a job that will allow you to work with very little energy expense. I'm not talking about you personally, I'm referring to use of fossil fuels.Sarah Palin, last night, outlined a platform that calls for a comprehensive energy plan. She cited more dilling, conservation, nuclear, solar and wind power. Obama has cited wind power, conservation and inflating tires. As anaside, I asked a logger about this. He can't figure out where the air goes in the tracks of his equipment. I said maybe pressurize the cab so you get used to hot air.Seriously, this country needs an energy policy that can lead to full employment. I would hope that an energy policy would also shift power plants away from oil and natural gas so that these resources can be used for heating, transportation, etc.Also, I want to know more about "book banning". Where did this story originate. If its from NBC, NYT, CNN or any over the other Dem surrogates, its probably overblown.YooperJack

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from james ti wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

has anyone else been hearing the winey dribble from the democrats about being hammered from palin last night? all this after 3 days of going after her with the media on their side. dems hate it when the tables turn don't they?gman,the 1a does not give extremist librarians the right to put offensive, dangerous books in the hands of our kids. palin was begged by hundreds of people to get those books out of the library for a long time and when it came to a fight they all abandoned her to fight it out by herself. when the librarian-who was involved it controversy after controversy for a long time before this-was asked if her kids were allowed to check these books out, she refused to asnswer 4 times. the 1a is just as important but not when it comes to our kids getting a hold of material they are not ready for.

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Damn. Typo. Muphry's Law, I guess.

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Before the savaging commences, I should add that I care less about the arguments for or against of Sarah Palin, John McCain, Joe Biden or Barack Obama than I do about the startlingly narrow political discourse in this country. If ideas stretched like the electromagnetic spectrum, our politics would be visible light -- colorful, perhaps, but only a very tiny fraction of what's there.

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Wait, Gman. Are you suggesting that a small group of hyper-religious zealots hell-bent on using the coercive power of government to tell the entire country how to live has subsumed a political party that once prided itself on staying out of folks' personal lives and business? Are you suggesting that one's preference between the two major political parties is merely an expression of the particular way in which one is willing to submit to greater government control and coercion?Why, that's preposterous, my friend. You must be a sociologist or some other cog in the liberal intelligentsia.In all earnestness, though, I applaud you for expressing an opinion contrary to the majority of the board. I, too, always find the idea of censorship troubling. Now let us prepare for the obligatory typo-riddled savaging.

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from firedog wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I am kinda of suprised with some of the comments about Sarah and her family. First none of us knows how her family functions just like I don't how Dave's functions. The thing is none of us have the right to comment it is their choice. I like what she says and how she says it.You folks out there that think Obama means change better consider what kinda of change. I notice the guy never says anything and by that I mean he never says anything concrete it is always vague and non committal.The guy has been a senator for 143 days and that is it. He is lawyer and Biden is a lawyer. Now McCain and Palin aren't lawyers. If it is any group that is out of touch with people its lawyers.I suggest those that think the Dems won't come after your firearms if Obama wins better go look at the record of both Biden and Obama. You will find that both of them are very much total banners of firearm ownership.If you don't think the media wants to pick our president just look how they question Palin over her kids but no questions over Obama taking his kids to a church where if the minister had been white and everyone wore hoods it would have been a Klan rally. Check out the pic, its on the net of Biden taking his oath of office in his daughters hospital room while his daughter was in critical condition. HMMM no question by the media about family coming first there!If Obama and Biden win you can look for the banning of guns and the censorship of the media cause Obama and his lawyers have threatened various stattions radio and tv with yanking their lics. when Obama wins. You can say good bye to Dave and his column because Obama isn't going to allow this kind of discussion when he gets in as he is a fascist.

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from paul Wilke wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Thinking of the future,Clinton Vs Palin.How's your vote go?

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from Gman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Sarah Palin is a dangerous theocrat who would be a great VP for all of us if we were all born-again Christians with tightass reading tastes.I ain't, and I ain't.I could give a rat's rear end about her experience as governor of that godforsaken mosquito den. The greatest president this country ever had had exactly one term in the House of Representatives before he was elected. And he got us through a civil war.McCain and Palin would set this country's economy and culture back 50 years; and I don't mean everybody in Detroit will have a good-paying job making tail finned-monsters, either.My 2A rights are too important to subsume them to a Far Right barracuda who wants to ban books. I've read many times on here that "Without 2A you won't have 1A." Well, now's the time to stand up for 1A, fellas, or admit you kinda like the idea of a country where everybody's a good God-fearing American - which is the epitome of an America that ain't worth the time the Framers put into the Constitution

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Bubba,I gues it's however the driveby media wants to say it.When the Clinton's were occupying the White House, I could never decide if sh1t-head (sic) was one word or two....

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from Scott in Southern Illinois wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I personally believe John McCain could not have made a more perfect choice for VP. She's all that AND a moose hunter! I would like to know what she shoots....a .300 Win Mag, a 30-06 (my personal fave), a 7mm mag. The choices would lead us a long way to who she really is. Think about it.

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from Thos. B. Fowler wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Hey, Guys and Gals [better add that],I am stunned and smiling about Sarah Palin agreeing to the proposal to run for Vice-President. It will mean a great sacrifice of her family and quality time, and I can hear the grinding stones rumbling now, sharpening the knives of her opponents. She dares not to make a single misstep...she is already under fire for confusing politics with religion--you WILL see more on that.I suppose that we all have to remember that we are electing real people, not Messiahs, when we cast ballots. We pin far too many hopes on our President, whoever he/she is, and refuse to recognize that the office is way too large for any single human being.We have more at stake, we who love guns and hunting. If Sarah does well, we do, too. If she drops the ball, we take a big hit. I like what I see, and she sure looks better than a pit bull, with or without the lipstick. I hope that the Secret Service adequately protects the woman. She represents fear for all our enemies, foreign or domestic...and to assassinate a pro-gun candidate---perish the thought, folks.We are not out of the woods, yet. Whatever happens, hurray for our Lady Who Hunts, and may she take careful aim in the next few months.Tom Fowler

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from Bubbainmiss wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Wrong, Dave. Absolutely nothing wrong with Mrs. Palin's voice. However, I wish the folks saying her name out loud would settle on one pronunciation and stick with it. Is it Paw-lin, Pay-lin, or Pal-lin? Maybe they could run an opinion poll on that.

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from YooperJack wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Eric:This by far is the best reason to vote for Obama! He's never fired anybody! Hell, maybe he can find his supplier for cocaine and put him in charge of the war on drugs. Perhaps William Ayers could be AG. Maybe that job should go to Tony Rezko. He knows law pretty well now. Ayers or his wife, Bernadine Dorne, could easily handle Secratary of Defense. Now we just need to find a job for his retired pastor.YooperJack

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from JLB wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Up flies a guinea, bang goes sixpence, and down comes half-a-crown.

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from Bryce wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Let's get down to issues here on Ms Palin. There is not a sportsman with a pair that would not put his mother in a home to have the Govenor making their AM coffee. What happens at home is family business (ie.: Chip Ford's girls in the Whitehouse, raising the Bush twins, the Clintons are still married??). She has the tenacity for the job and she has the bearing to win. Now, the press, a mamber of which the proprietor of this blog is, will find out if she has the veracity. Set the dogs loose! Withstanding this is nothing compared to international politics.

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from Tsov Tom wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Eric: You mean sorta like Bill and Hillary firing, and trying to prosecute, the White House travel staff and making nearly a hundred federal attorneys resign when they came into office?

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from DAVE2 wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

GO SARAH! GO SARAH! SPEECH WAS AWESOME.IF REPUBLICANS TAKE THE OFFICE, THE ODDS ARE REALLY GOOD THAT THIS LADY IN FOUR YEARS WILL BE RUNNING FOR THE BIG JOB.I'M SURE BILL C. WILL BE ON THE ROAD A LOT TO AVOID BEING AT HOME.

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from Eric wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I am more concerned about this 1st Admendment infringement than her pregnancies.Palin the book bannerStein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.htmlThe New York Times has further information on this issue today, including the news that Palin FIRED the Wasilla librarian:“Shortly after becoming mayor, former city officials and Wasilla residents said, Ms. Palin approached the town librarian about the possibility of banning some books, though she never followed through and it was unclear which books or passages were in question.Ann Kilkenny, a Democrat who said she attended every City Council meeting in Ms. Palin’s first year in office, said Ms. Palin brought up the idea of banning some books at one meeting. “They were somehow morally or socially objectionable to her,” Ms. Kilkenny said.The librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, pledged to “resist all efforts at censorship,” Ms. Kilkenny recalled. Ms. Palin fired Ms. Emmons shortly after taking office but changed course after residents made a strong show of support. Ms. Emmons, who left her job and Wasilla a couple of years later, declined to comment for this article.In 1996, Ms. Palin suggested to the local paper, The Frontiersman, that the conversations about banning books were “rhetorical.”Ms. Emmons was not the only employee to leave. During her campaign, Ms. Palin appealed to voters who felt that city employees under Mr. Stein, who was not from Wasilla and had earned a degree in public administration at the University of Oregon, had been unresponsive and rigid regarding a new comprehensive development plan. In turn, some city employees expressed support for Mr. Stein in a campaign advertisement.Once in office, Ms. Palin asked many of Mr. Stein’s backers to resign — something virtually unheard of in Wasilla in past elections. The public works director, city planner, museum director and others were forced out. The police chief, Irl Stambaugh, was later fired outright.”

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from Art Lamb wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I think Sarah will make a great VP, and besides she is a damn good looking woman to boot. So we get a good looking, straight shooting, frontier woman and that is great. I lived in Alaska for 5 years and wish that she was the Governor then.

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from jim in nc wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Yooper and all the rest of you:I agree with everything y'all have said about Sarah and Bristol and their family; I admire what they're doing about this situation (tho I worry about Sarah's ability to handle the VP along with a pregnant daughter and a special-needs baby); and I'm not sure I even consider what happened "sin." My beef is with the political parties.

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from BrokenRubber wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

EyeBall,Chelsea ... yeah there's the TICKET!Better soak the gonads in EverClear for a decade or so if that happens?

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from AlaskanExile wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Remember, Obama likes guns so much that he wants yours too!

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from AlaskanExile wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

The weekend before the primary election where Sarah Palin beat Frank Murkowski, the incumbent governor at the time, and a long-serving Senator, she was at a gun-show!I met her there, briefly. She could have sent a flunky to do that, but went herself. She was not working with any cue-cards or tele-prompters, and she was convincing many crusty old crumudgeons that she was the woman for the job. Alas, I had cast my vote already for "Frank-the-Bank" as he was sometimes known. I didn't think she had the moxie to take-on Exxon-Mobile, Shell and BP, I was wrong!I was convinced that day that she would win the primary without my vote, and I had no doubt that she would be the governor. I'm not surprised at all by her performance thus-far. She, hunts, fishes, legislates, leads, runs marathons, and looks good (and happy) doing it. What more could you as for? She is going to take Joe Biden to school at the debate, you watch. Liberals hate her, all the more reason to like her.

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from eyeball wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Just saw Palin's (and Giuliani's) speeches at the Republican Convention. Palin was dynamite. She is everything every Democrat and Feminist admires in a woman, except that she is thoroughly Conservative. She is not exactly painful to look at, either. The Democrats really do not want her in their world; if she becomes VP, in eight (or four) years she could go for the top job. If McCain/ Palin win this, the Democrats can say goodbye to the big chair until 2020 at the earliest. Maybe Chelsea will be old enough to run by then.

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from Del in KS wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Just watched Sara Palin give a great speech. Dave I agree with you on everything except her voice. She sounds like a songbird to me. Now we know why the liberal press is in panic mode and grasping at straws to attack Sara. Their 2 horses are nags and they know it. I expect McCain/Palin to win in a landslide.

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from ishawooa wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

If you watched both conventions I doubt you are torn as to which group deserves your vote. Insofar as Gov. Palin, no one is perfect but she (and Sen. McCain) sure fair better than the majority of the Democrats when it comes to being on the side of America in this somewhat uncaring and cruel world. I wonder what cartridge she shoots at caribou and moose? Obviously not blanks like most Democrats. God bless America...especially now when we all really need to be as certain as we can about our destiny and that of our children.

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from Emmanuel wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Petzal nailed it about the treatment of Palin's moose hunting. Most reporters don't hunt. They don't realize that it's one thing to bag a whitetail that weighs less than a man and drag it through a flat soybean field to your truck, and quite another thing to bag a moose whose weight is closer to a truck than a man and drag it through a swamp to camp.I know that most reporters don't hunt because I know a lot of reporters. That's because I am one, and I have startled other reporters when I told them that used to hunt dove. (They were not consoled by my suggestion that doves -- while they may be international symbols of peace -- taste great wrapped in bacon.)

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from Thomas wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

YooperJack,Thanks for the info. I knew that Mike Cox ran for office but non of the local Media covered whether he won or not. With me being gone on the road so much I never did find out till about a year or so later. Like I said Mike Cox was or is from my neck of the woods and one of the things I remember him spearheading through is the CCW license. He was for it and fought for our right to get it.Tom the Troll

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from Thomas wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

For all you Guys and Gals that remember lasts months comic strip "Non Sequitur" with the Dumb neanderthal hunters. Today's "Non Sequitur" might give a chuckle or two.Tom the Trollhttp://news.yahoo.com/comics/uclickcomics/20080903/cx_nq_uc/nq20080903

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from Jim in Mo. wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I'm watching the RNC and one thing that really sticks out is the dress of these people. They look respectable, as if they're someplace important. When I watched the DNC those people with their dress attire and goofy hats looked liked they should be on The Price Is Right. Should it surprise anyone they like Obama?

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from YooperJack wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Tom the Troll:When I first saw Sarah Palin last week, my first thought was "How did Michigan get screwed so bad with our lady governor?"Actually, I'm surprised that the Mayor of Detroit is even charged! Being a Democrat, you would think that he would be able to squash the charges, especially because he's the mayor of a primarily black city. I can't imagine anyone finding a jury in all of Detroit that would convict him!Also Tom, we elected Mike Cox! The Attorney General and Secretary of State run for office in MI. They are elected the same time as the Governor. Both the SOS and AG ran as Republicans and won.YooperJack

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from Thomas wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

My .02 is that Palin's daughter Bristol is no different from any other White, Black, Yellow, Red or any other color male or female teenager. At some point you have to let them make their own mistakes and stand on their own two feet. At least she is 17 and not 12. I know 5 years does not make much of a difference but it does. From what I have seen on the electronic media she drinks, parties and has a good time. In one photo of her she is holding a shotgun in one hand and a pistol in the other hand.http://img214.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77796_bristol-palin-guns_122_234lo.jpgTom the Troll

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I like McCain's choice, but this didn't change my mind to be a Republican voter. McCain is a better choice as President to me; as far as I am concerned regardless of his VP pick.

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from KJ wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Personally, I salute a man who can step on his own ding dong.

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from OrangeNeckInNY wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Oh Puh-lease Jim in NC, when did YOU lose your virginity? And was it to a girl? Well, were the two of you married at that time you lost it? Before you start casting stones, maybe you should look in the mirror. You're doubly hypocritical for calling "hypocrite" on the hypocrites. Palin's the Hope and Change everyone's crying out for and you're going to start picking nits on stuff that 90% of the world's population does? You know, underage sex being a crime, is a machination of politics and people. Somewhere along the way, someone said, "Hey! I think 13 is too young to get married and start a family." Then it became 14, 15, 16 and so on and so forth. Nature (or God) gave mankind the ability to start reproducing at puberty. Man made it criminal. The laws of man are in direct conflict with the laws of Nature. Not saying that I would go out and have sex with a teenager, but you know there are those out there who believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Take the Muslims for example. They still marry off their daughters at 12, 13, etc.Okay, so Bristol's 17 and pregnant. What do you suppose she do about it, as if it were even up to you? Obama's mother was 16 when she got pregnant with him, yet nobody seems to be pointing that out. His father was out "sowing his oats" while his mother handed him off to be raised by his grandparents (I'm not even going to go into what his mother was doing in Pakistan during his formative years). Where was his nuclear family? Where are his family values?Where is Obama's Hope and Change when he picks a 30-year Senator who really hasn't done anything in all that time? Doesn't it frost you that he keeps spewing this rhetoric and then goes and picks someone who is as far away from Hope and Change as Biden is?Again, you're nitpicking where there aren't any nits to be picked. She's going to have the baby. She's going to marry the father of her baby. She has the love and support of her family. What more do you want? Who are you to judge?"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."Scott, you're not going to vote for McCain because why? One vote for anyone else is one less vote for McCain and Palin. You want Palin to get her foot in the door, you can vote her in as VP first.Everybody talks about Hope and Change. Well, there SHE is, folks. Otherwise it's just going to be politics as usual. Nothing is going to change until YOU do.Or are you all afraid of change? Possibly for the better? You know you're not going to get that on the Obama/Biden ticket.That's my $0.02.

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from Gman wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Why, johnl, it all comes down to fetal viability; That ain't a PC term, it's a medical term. Just as the argument around 2A is really at the margins, all this huff'n'puffin' on here by a bunch of middle-aged white guys about "death" and "murder" kinda flies in the face of consistent majority opinion that abortion should be legal. And granted, that majority hews back and forth,Reminds me of a bumper sticker I usedta see a lot of:"Against abortion? Don't have one."

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

jim in nc,Remember the phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner"?We can support and promote, or dislike and abhore something, but still recognize that no one is perfect.Yes, there are radicals on both extremes, but I don't believe either party has a monopoly on virtue or hypocracy.I just appreciate Dr Ralph calling it what it is, "pro-death", rather than the Orwellian "pro-choice".And find it rather curious that the side of the aisle that finds "pro-choice" acceptable for the innocents, usually is against the death penalty for the guilty.Maybe we need a new, more politically correct name for it.

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from Thomas wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

YooperJack,Do you think our illustrious governor will actually get rid of the mayor of Detroit. Or do you think that she will back down because he has too much dirt on her? I still say that she had him rig the ballots down in Detroit for governor. I just can not prove it. But I guess we will find out tomorrow morning what type of plea bargin she is going to let him get away with. If I was attorney general Mike Cox I would hold him to all ten felony counts and throw his butt in jail where it belongs. State Attorney General Mike Cox is a local boy from my neck of the woods,around Mayville, MI (a small po dunk town of less then 1000.) He is, Pro Gun, Pro Life and pro other things. Why a low life democratic snake like Granholm elected him puzzles me to no end. Maybe she figured if something goes wrong she can pin it on him.Tom the Troll

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from YooperJack wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

jim in nc:What would you do? I raised 4 kids. It was always in the back of my mind that it could happen to us. I resolved that, if it occurred, we would counsel strongly against abortion and I wouldn't beat up either my daughter or the boy. A shotgun wedding would've also been out of the question. Too many divorces from them. If they want to marry, fine. But don't get married simply because of a pregnancy.I think the Palin's handled this as best they could.YooperJack

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from jim in nc wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

DP: I agree that the reproductive habits of the Palins are irrelevant. But I gotta admit it really frosts me that the GOP has been screaming "family values" year after year and suddenly gets on board with premarital sex. If Bristol were Joe Biden's daughter we'd have the religious right frothing at the mouth about liberal immorality. Lots of the GOP would like to burn lesbians at the stake--unless it's Cheney's daughter. Can you spell "hypocrite?"

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I have raised five kids. Five children, five personalities and five different temperaments. If anyone thinks they can control five individual beings actions all of the time outside a boot camp or maybe even in haven't tried.At least Mrs. Palin didn't "make the problem go away" as many Liberals do. I am proud she isn't pro-death... no wait I mean choice.

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from eyeball wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Dave, I strongly disagree with you for the first time ever. I think Palin's voice is just fine. Nobody's voice has the edge to it that Hillary's has; in the deepest pit of Hell, the justly damned have to listen to Hillary singing the National Anthem over and over.And you still didn't tell us what kind of wood those shotguns are stocked with, although if it is pretty enough to make strong men mess themselves, maybe it doesn't matter.

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from scott wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

that "wou" is supposed to be "you" obviously

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from Scott wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Tony C.wou asked "When are the national parties going to get it right and give us some good middle-of-the-road candidates we can really get behind?"what do you think McCain is? He certainly isn't a Republican in the sense of Robert Taft, Barry Goldwater or Ronald Reagan. His best bud is Lieberman, and he sided with Kennedy on the immigration issue, what more could you ask for.too me basically what you want is even less of a decision. How bout in 4 years we just have one person/party run for the presidency, we'll call them the Republicrats.Me on the other hand want more of a choice, I want third, fourth, fifth partys, I want the full spectrum of ideas to be laid out before us. I would love to vote for Palin, if she were the head of the ticket I'd be down, but I can't vote for McCain. And no I"m not voting for Obama. I"ll be voting either Baldwin of the constitution party or Barr of the libertarian party, whichever will be on the ballot in Virginia, if niether are then I will walk out without voting. Is McCain going to lose my vote, NO, he never had my vote.

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Yooper,I agree, I thought her voice was fine. Wasn't screeching like fingernails on a blackboard, nothing like Hillary or Nancy Pelosi.Looking forward to hearing her tonight, and hopeful that it's a positive message and not an attack.Getting REAL TIRED of those.Really enjoyed Fred Thompson's speech last night, he took 'em to the woodshed with a smile on his face and no yelling.

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from YooperJack wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Is my hearing gone? I didn't notice anything wrong with her voice. Hillary's voice is almost unique. I hadn't heard anything similar since hearing tapes of Adolf Hitler.Anyone who criticizes Sara Palin for firing her brother-in-law must both drink and drive, and abuse children.YooperJack

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from johnl wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Beekeeper,Unfortunately you are correct.I'd never run for office. Any of my youthful indiscretions wouldn't bother me, I could plead stupidity, but would be terribly unfair to the innocent other people they would involve.Witness what's happening to the Palin family right now.Disgraceful.Don't much care for BHO, but he got this one right, kids...especially young ones...should be off limits.

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from Beekeeper wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

As long as individuals (and their family members) have to undergo the media equivalent of a "body cavity search" we will never attract quality people into the presidencey. Let's face it, by the time we get a "worthy" candidate with name recognition interested in the Whitehouse they have committeed so many political shenanigans that they can never endure scrutiny from the media which has become more akin to tabloid journalists. Not to mention the fact that these clowns (the media) don't mind making up stuff, then printing a retraction on page 56. Example: Dan RatherAdd in the fact that political parties are so polarized on ideals that "middle of the road" folks don't fit the mold anymore. You must be an extremist to be attractive to the "party". Our political party system is definitely broken!If I were hiring for the position of president I would have sent the whole slate back and asked for a new one...

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from MMM wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Is Sarah Palin 5 months pregnant? Does she totally control her daughter. Man, if she can, I'd like to know how to have total control over my 3 daughters. Is her daughter running for VP. Man, politics. I liked it when Rip Torn said "the only thing worse than a politition is a child molester"

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from Tom Sorenson wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Right on, Dave. Regarding her speaking voice, too. Oh well - the woman hunts moose, she can't be too bad - of course her decision to involve herself in politics is a mark against her.

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from jstreet wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Has anyone else noticed the resemblance that Sarah Palin has to Peggy Hill from the "king of the hill" tv show on fox.It's uncanny (and sorta funny).Jim

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from Tony C. wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I was excited about McCain/Palin when she was first announced. I like the idea that she's a hunter, NRA member, etc.But this teen pregnancy/state trooper-brother-in-law crap makes her look like white trash. Sorry. That's the way I see it.I'll vote for them, but I'm really not voting for them. I'm voting against Obama.When are the national parties going to get it right and give us some good middle-of-the-road candidates we can really get behind?I had a great friend with a colorful vocabulary who had a great way of expressing it when someone had messed up.He said that person had "stepped on his ding-dong" with the decision in question.I think McCain may have stepped on his ding-dong when he picked Palin.

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from Chaz wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

Alaska is alright. Look what they've given us in the last couple of months: Corey Cogdell, Matt Emmons and Sarah Palin. Nice.

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from Mark-1 wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

-Yes. It is easier to build a temp homestead next to a shot moose and eat it than to cut it up and pack it out.-A. H. Fox doubles??? Slurp!-After watching the media coverage of this election it makes me wonder where journalism has gone. The media coverage is about as deep as a bird bath. Disgusting.

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from Jay wrote 5 years 32 weeks ago

I agree 100%. I can't believe that there are folks on these blogs that are going to vote for Obama. Amazing to me.

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from krj1944 wrote 4 years 40 weeks ago

like most the media leaves something to be desired but so does palin,we currently have a moron in office,we don't need another one,time for some real leadership whom

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