During the public-input period, comments ran 2-1 in favor of continuing to allow urine-based scents. Urine-scent lure manufacturers were among those opposed to the ban. Steve Lovern, who runs Reaper Scents, in Stoney, Virginia, spoke in favor of the scents at the June meeting. He believes the new rule will hurt his business and does little to stop the spread of CWD. Lovern told the Roanoke Times that his urine comes from farms in New York where the deer are randomly tested for CWD, avoiding the spread of the disease. Also, he contends that deer are unlikely to lick urine in the woods, which some attribute to CWD outbreaks, and he asserts feeding deer are at greater risk of spreading sickness. "As they eat, saliva drips from their mouths and other deer eat that saliva," he said. "This is how CWD is transmitted."