The rifle he lent me to shoot is one of the latter; it has a Low Pro DPMS upper, an Advance Armaments lower, a Jewell two-stage trigger, and medium-heavy barrel. The rifle, with a Trijicon 5X-20X tactical scope on board, weighs 10.5 pounds, and the trigger breaks at 2 even. Does it shoot? I would say so. I tested it with some of Jay Jarrett's handloads (it's actually Jay's rifle), Federal match ammo, and some of my own handloads. The Federal match averaged around .500; Jay's fodder ran in the .400-.350 range, and my own ammo printed groups of .400 to as small as .166, which you can cover with a dime and have quite a bit to spare.