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Fishing Knots: How to Tie The Four Strongest

Fishing Knots: How to Tie The Four Strongest

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from dukerjj wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

i use the same knot and it is great

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

I've always called the first not the "fisherman's knot" I have never lost a fish because the knot didn't hold with this knot.

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from bnorth1 wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

I've never seen the San Diego before but I like it. With some practice this one will likely move up there with the Palomar for me.

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from wsimien wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

There are few things more frustrating then losing a good fish or a lure on a snag because of a shady knot. Attention to detail in knot tying is the difference between heart break or trophy. I've always stuck to the clinch and palomar but will give the san diego a shot.

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from mdhager115 wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

Never knew there were so many knots.

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from dwaynez wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

Great Post, I am always looking for new knots or ways to improve ones that I currentl use.

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from MLH wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

Old habits die hard ... but I've got time to practice.

So, this is what you did in front of the TV! Would be interesting to see what happens when knots are jerked quickly.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

I've had lures stuck up in trees with this not and yanked on them until the line broke. The knot never broke during these times, it's easily the best knot for lures.

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from VT Outdoorsman wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

Anyone know if you can use the Six Turn Yucatan knot to go from heavy braid to mono or flouro? I currently use the Slim Beauty to go from braid to flouro leaders and it works well.. actually its never failed, but it seems the Six Turn Yucatan know it much better...

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from ETangler wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

That article in your mag. was great info for all of us fisherman!!! These knots can mean a big difference in our catch ratio.

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from Russtbucket wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

I prefer the vice-versa (The Complete Book of Knots) over the J knot; I've never had the vice-versa break on the knot.

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from hnestle wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

Good illustration. I just realize that I have not been looping the line at the hook end. I haven't had any problems tying it like that, but its nice to know the right way.

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from Hawkeye79 wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

First, BIG thanks for testing knots and publishing the results. Any chance of seeing the Orvis knot tested? Fly fishermen need knots that use little tippet. The San Diego is a great knot but uses a fair amount of line per knot tied.

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from Hawkeye79 wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

A couple more comments. You list the J knot as best for equal sized line splicing at 67%, but in the unequal lines, the Slim Beauty is listed at 94%. It works well for similar sized line, wastes little of your leader (if fly fishing), easier to tie than the J knot, as you don't have to drag 3 feet of tippet through the knot, and much higher knot strength.
Also, in the Unequal line knot category, while the Yucatan knot is stronger than the Slim Beauty, you have to also tie either a bimini twist or spider hitch first, which are rated similarly to the Slim Beauty, the final rating of the whole set up is about the same as the Slim Beauty, and you only have to tie one knot.

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from cwolf5 wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

Trilene knot is what i use i have yet to lose anything with it.

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from Fish-N-Fool wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

Well Mr.John Merwin, you got this totally wrong. There is no way the San Diego jam knot could beat the Trilene knot, the Miller knot or the Palomar knot. No knot that has the line pass through the hook eye only once is as a good knot that has it pass through twice. The figures that he quoted are also pie in the sky. If you want some real data go look up Knot Wars. The 5 strongest knots for tying a hook to a line are in my opinion. #5 the eyecrosser knot #4 is the Miller knot #3 is the Trilene knot, #2 it the Palomar knot. I know of what I speak about knots as I invented the strongest knot ever tested, The Fish-N-Fool Knot at #1. It tested well above 100% line strength for Mono and Braid and was above 100% with fluorocarbon. The 14# Trilene tracer braid in the test didn't break until 19.44Lb. That's is 138% line strength. The 14# Trilene XT red mono held till an amazing 20.54 lbs. That's 146% line strength and last in 15# Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon it held till 15.21 Lbs. or 101% The best knot tested with F.C was at 103% for the Miller knot. I would suggest Mr. Merwin go over his facts again and get it right.

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from marlin wrote 5 years 8 weeks ago

Fish-n-fool how did you test your knot.Also what do you base your comment on in regards to passing the line twice as opposed to once as far as knot strength?

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from Fish-N-Fool wrote 5 years 8 weeks ago

Marlin, I didnt test my knot, the folks at The North American Fisherman did the tests on a Burkley line tester in a segment of the TV show called "Knot Wars". Watch the Knot Wars segments here at http://www.fishingclub.com/ExtraContent/ExtraContentDetail.aspx?id=14607... and you will agree. Watch the 2008 Knot Wars for info on the San Diego jam knot and others that lost to the Palomar the winner for 2008. Next year my knot will go up against a host of new knots to try to find a better knot then the Fish-N-Fool knot.

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from Griffin 33 wrote 5 years 7 weeks ago

I'm really impressed by the article and the comments. But I have some trouble tying on the river, so I use the uni knot with five twists. Use it for line splicing and tying terminal rigging. I can tie it in poor light and with no glasses. And I use it for a stopper knot on floats. OK, maybe it isn't the top of the list for strength, but I can tie it right every time. So, help me out here, is there a better number of twists to use, other than five? Does it matter on line size?

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from Fish-N-Fool wrote 5 years 7 weeks ago

Just put the line through the hook eye twice then tie your uni knot with at least 5 up to 7 wraps and you have the Fish-N-Fool knot. Super quick, super strong and good with all line types and weights that I have tested. It should be the only knot you need to knot for tying a hook to a line or terminal tackle.

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from lavehargett wrote 5 years 7 weeks ago

I have used this knot for years. I use it for large game fish as well as jigging for small game fish and I have never had this knot to break or fail me. It's the best knot, that I have ever used.You might break your line,or staighten your hook, but it won't break the knot.

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from lavehargett wrote 5 years 7 weeks ago

I have used this knot for years.I use it on large game fish as well as jigging for small game fish,andI have never found a better way to tie on a lure or a hook.You might break your line or straighten out your hook, but the knot will never fail you.

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from Justin D wrote 4 years 46 weeks ago

Works great!

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from dennis.stein@co... wrote 4 years 43 weeks ago

This article on knots is excellent. I emailed copies to both my sons who also enjoy fishing. Very practical and helpful.

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from samyadamsp wrote 4 years 42 weeks ago

Okay, heres the deal...there might be strong knots out there, but how easy are they to tie?...especially when youre on the water...or just lost a rig and the pressure is on to get your line back out there on the water...??? A complicated knot thats strong wont get used...chances are, most anglers will go with whats quick and easy...and somewhat strong...deny it all you want...

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from samyadamsp wrote 4 years 42 weeks ago

Oh did I mention this knot kicks butt!!! I call it the "Double San Diego"!!! known by a few names...

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from Ralph manns wrote 4 years 41 weeks ago

I see the complete list of the knots you compared. If you didn't test the Doubled line Clinch Knot (DLCK) by simply tying the knot after doubling the mainline, you missed one of the best. Use 4.5 to 5.5 wraps depending upon line diameter.) I've used the DLCK ever since comparing it to single-line clinch knots, Palomars, most of the common flyfishing knots, and the Berkley knot with a borrowed Berkley line-test machine many years ago. It proved to be a 100% knot, as tough as a machine can test, and it lasts longer in use than any single-stranded knot I've ever tried.

the downside is that it is a bit hard for old arthritic fingers to manipulate, but less so than the San Diego Jam-knot, IMHO.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 4 years 39 weeks ago

Great illustration on the knots.......It's very helpful to my family as far as fishing.....

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from acs wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

My Father would like to know what the other knots were that were tested. Does anyone know?

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from buckshot54 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

i like all these knots but ive only used 1 and 4.

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from bigfishguy wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

cool
very useful
i will use them soon

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from mexhunter wrote 3 years 25 weeks ago

I remember I was once fishing from the beach in texas and I hooked a nice sized fish, the only one if the day, and when it was at my feet I reched down to grab it and it swam off out of nowhere. I saw the end of the line and the knot I found at the internet had "uncoiled" I hope that with these it wont happen again.

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from mexhunter wrote 3 years 25 weeks ago

I remember I was once fishing from the beach in texas and I hooked a nice sized fish, the only one if the day, and when it was at my feet I reched down to grab it and it swam off out of nowhere. I saw the end of the line and the knot I found at the internet had "uncoiled" I hope that with these it wont happen again.

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from sobemanhoss wrote 3 years 2 weeks ago

I love this article. But the title is FIVE strongest fishing knots. I only see four. What is number 5?

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from winston wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

The fish-n-fool is weaker than you think. Just because you haven't caught a fish that was strong enough to actually test the knot strength doesn't make it strong.

This statement... "No knot that has the line pass through the hook eye only once is as a good knot that has it pass through twice"... is also untrue. It is so off-base, you must be dreaming!

You need to analyze your knot again!

I agree, the San Diego Jam beats them all!

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from dbramley wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I learned a new knot this yr when fishing for muskie that is different from the fishermans knot i have always used its simple and twice as strong for braided line. guess we learn something new everyday though

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from Bigagoo wrote 1 year 45 weeks ago

I was fishing in Cuyamaca Lake in San Diego County a few years ago. I spent about two hours sitting in the boat with the line in the water with not even a nibble. I went back to the proshop to ask for advice. They had me tie the knot in a different way and space out the hook/weight differently. I tried it again and caught 3 fish in 20 minutes. Goes to show you, the devil's in the details.

John
www.trollingmotorsupply.com

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from DrunkPaulo wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

Tested the some version of the San Diego while out fishing about 2-3 weeks ago. Only times I have lost hooks in that trip was when the line broke. This is one pretty good knot.

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from Herp Deederp wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I first saw the San Diego on Knot Wars, and it's now all I ever use when fishing bass with either braided or fluorocarbon line.

It is very simple to tie, and is incredibly strong and reliable. A great knot!

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from bigfishguy wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

cool
very useful
i will use them soon

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from Griffin 33 wrote 5 years 7 weeks ago

I'm really impressed by the article and the comments. But I have some trouble tying on the river, so I use the uni knot with five twists. Use it for line splicing and tying terminal rigging. I can tie it in poor light and with no glasses. And I use it for a stopper knot on floats. OK, maybe it isn't the top of the list for strength, but I can tie it right every time. So, help me out here, is there a better number of twists to use, other than five? Does it matter on line size?

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from Fish-N-Fool wrote 5 years 7 weeks ago

Just put the line through the hook eye twice then tie your uni knot with at least 5 up to 7 wraps and you have the Fish-N-Fool knot. Super quick, super strong and good with all line types and weights that I have tested. It should be the only knot you need to knot for tying a hook to a line or terminal tackle.

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from lavehargett wrote 5 years 7 weeks ago

I have used this knot for years. I use it for large game fish as well as jigging for small game fish and I have never had this knot to break or fail me. It's the best knot, that I have ever used.You might break your line,or staighten your hook, but it won't break the knot.

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from mexhunter wrote 3 years 25 weeks ago

I remember I was once fishing from the beach in texas and I hooked a nice sized fish, the only one if the day, and when it was at my feet I reched down to grab it and it swam off out of nowhere. I saw the end of the line and the knot I found at the internet had "uncoiled" I hope that with these it wont happen again.

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from dbramley wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I learned a new knot this yr when fishing for muskie that is different from the fishermans knot i have always used its simple and twice as strong for braided line. guess we learn something new everyday though

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from dukerjj wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

i use the same knot and it is great

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

I've always called the first not the "fisherman's knot" I have never lost a fish because the knot didn't hold with this knot.

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from bnorth1 wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

I've never seen the San Diego before but I like it. With some practice this one will likely move up there with the Palomar for me.

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from wsimien wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

There are few things more frustrating then losing a good fish or a lure on a snag because of a shady knot. Attention to detail in knot tying is the difference between heart break or trophy. I've always stuck to the clinch and palomar but will give the san diego a shot.

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from mdhager115 wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

Never knew there were so many knots.

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from dwaynez wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

Great Post, I am always looking for new knots or ways to improve ones that I currentl use.

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from MLH wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

Old habits die hard ... but I've got time to practice.

So, this is what you did in front of the TV! Would be interesting to see what happens when knots are jerked quickly.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

I've had lures stuck up in trees with this not and yanked on them until the line broke. The knot never broke during these times, it's easily the best knot for lures.

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from VT Outdoorsman wrote 5 years 10 weeks ago

Anyone know if you can use the Six Turn Yucatan knot to go from heavy braid to mono or flouro? I currently use the Slim Beauty to go from braid to flouro leaders and it works well.. actually its never failed, but it seems the Six Turn Yucatan know it much better...

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from ETangler wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

That article in your mag. was great info for all of us fisherman!!! These knots can mean a big difference in our catch ratio.

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from Russtbucket wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

I prefer the vice-versa (The Complete Book of Knots) over the J knot; I've never had the vice-versa break on the knot.

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from hnestle wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

Good illustration. I just realize that I have not been looping the line at the hook end. I haven't had any problems tying it like that, but its nice to know the right way.

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from Hawkeye79 wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

First, BIG thanks for testing knots and publishing the results. Any chance of seeing the Orvis knot tested? Fly fishermen need knots that use little tippet. The San Diego is a great knot but uses a fair amount of line per knot tied.

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from Hawkeye79 wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

A couple more comments. You list the J knot as best for equal sized line splicing at 67%, but in the unequal lines, the Slim Beauty is listed at 94%. It works well for similar sized line, wastes little of your leader (if fly fishing), easier to tie than the J knot, as you don't have to drag 3 feet of tippet through the knot, and much higher knot strength.
Also, in the Unequal line knot category, while the Yucatan knot is stronger than the Slim Beauty, you have to also tie either a bimini twist or spider hitch first, which are rated similarly to the Slim Beauty, the final rating of the whole set up is about the same as the Slim Beauty, and you only have to tie one knot.

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from cwolf5 wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

Trilene knot is what i use i have yet to lose anything with it.

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from marlin wrote 5 years 8 weeks ago

Fish-n-fool how did you test your knot.Also what do you base your comment on in regards to passing the line twice as opposed to once as far as knot strength?

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from Fish-N-Fool wrote 5 years 8 weeks ago

Marlin, I didnt test my knot, the folks at The North American Fisherman did the tests on a Burkley line tester in a segment of the TV show called "Knot Wars". Watch the Knot Wars segments here at http://www.fishingclub.com/ExtraContent/ExtraContentDetail.aspx?id=14607... and you will agree. Watch the 2008 Knot Wars for info on the San Diego jam knot and others that lost to the Palomar the winner for 2008. Next year my knot will go up against a host of new knots to try to find a better knot then the Fish-N-Fool knot.

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from lavehargett wrote 5 years 7 weeks ago

I have used this knot for years.I use it on large game fish as well as jigging for small game fish,andI have never found a better way to tie on a lure or a hook.You might break your line or straighten out your hook, but the knot will never fail you.

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from Justin D wrote 4 years 46 weeks ago

Works great!

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from dennis.stein@co... wrote 4 years 43 weeks ago

This article on knots is excellent. I emailed copies to both my sons who also enjoy fishing. Very practical and helpful.

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from samyadamsp wrote 4 years 42 weeks ago

Okay, heres the deal...there might be strong knots out there, but how easy are they to tie?...especially when youre on the water...or just lost a rig and the pressure is on to get your line back out there on the water...??? A complicated knot thats strong wont get used...chances are, most anglers will go with whats quick and easy...and somewhat strong...deny it all you want...

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from samyadamsp wrote 4 years 42 weeks ago

Oh did I mention this knot kicks butt!!! I call it the "Double San Diego"!!! known by a few names...

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from Ralph manns wrote 4 years 41 weeks ago

I see the complete list of the knots you compared. If you didn't test the Doubled line Clinch Knot (DLCK) by simply tying the knot after doubling the mainline, you missed one of the best. Use 4.5 to 5.5 wraps depending upon line diameter.) I've used the DLCK ever since comparing it to single-line clinch knots, Palomars, most of the common flyfishing knots, and the Berkley knot with a borrowed Berkley line-test machine many years ago. It proved to be a 100% knot, as tough as a machine can test, and it lasts longer in use than any single-stranded knot I've ever tried.

the downside is that it is a bit hard for old arthritic fingers to manipulate, but less so than the San Diego Jam-knot, IMHO.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 4 years 39 weeks ago

Great illustration on the knots.......It's very helpful to my family as far as fishing.....

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from acs wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

My Father would like to know what the other knots were that were tested. Does anyone know?

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from buckshot54 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

i like all these knots but ive only used 1 and 4.

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from mexhunter wrote 3 years 25 weeks ago

I remember I was once fishing from the beach in texas and I hooked a nice sized fish, the only one if the day, and when it was at my feet I reched down to grab it and it swam off out of nowhere. I saw the end of the line and the knot I found at the internet had "uncoiled" I hope that with these it wont happen again.

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from sobemanhoss wrote 3 years 2 weeks ago

I love this article. But the title is FIVE strongest fishing knots. I only see four. What is number 5?

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from winston wrote 2 years 24 weeks ago

The fish-n-fool is weaker than you think. Just because you haven't caught a fish that was strong enough to actually test the knot strength doesn't make it strong.

This statement... "No knot that has the line pass through the hook eye only once is as a good knot that has it pass through twice"... is also untrue. It is so off-base, you must be dreaming!

You need to analyze your knot again!

I agree, the San Diego Jam beats them all!

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from Bigagoo wrote 1 year 45 weeks ago

I was fishing in Cuyamaca Lake in San Diego County a few years ago. I spent about two hours sitting in the boat with the line in the water with not even a nibble. I went back to the proshop to ask for advice. They had me tie the knot in a different way and space out the hook/weight differently. I tried it again and caught 3 fish in 20 minutes. Goes to show you, the devil's in the details.

John
www.trollingmotorsupply.com

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from DrunkPaulo wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

Tested the some version of the San Diego while out fishing about 2-3 weeks ago. Only times I have lost hooks in that trip was when the line broke. This is one pretty good knot.

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from Herp Deederp wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I first saw the San Diego on Knot Wars, and it's now all I ever use when fishing bass with either braided or fluorocarbon line.

It is very simple to tie, and is incredibly strong and reliable. A great knot!

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from Fish-N-Fool wrote 5 years 9 weeks ago

Well Mr.John Merwin, you got this totally wrong. There is no way the San Diego jam knot could beat the Trilene knot, the Miller knot or the Palomar knot. No knot that has the line pass through the hook eye only once is as a good knot that has it pass through twice. The figures that he quoted are also pie in the sky. If you want some real data go look up Knot Wars. The 5 strongest knots for tying a hook to a line are in my opinion. #5 the eyecrosser knot #4 is the Miller knot #3 is the Trilene knot, #2 it the Palomar knot. I know of what I speak about knots as I invented the strongest knot ever tested, The Fish-N-Fool Knot at #1. It tested well above 100% line strength for Mono and Braid and was above 100% with fluorocarbon. The 14# Trilene tracer braid in the test didn't break until 19.44Lb. That's is 138% line strength. The 14# Trilene XT red mono held till an amazing 20.54 lbs. That's 146% line strength and last in 15# Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon it held till 15.21 Lbs. or 101% The best knot tested with F.C was at 103% for the Miller knot. I would suggest Mr. Merwin go over his facts again and get it right.

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The Test: To determine the winners I tested a total of 18 established knots on my Chatillon DFE digital force gauge, for which I paid an obscene amount. Basically, two small fixtures hold the line (or knot) and pull slowly apart, while a precisely calibrated gauge records the force at which a break occurs.

Knots often break because they aren’t firmly and evenly tightened, so lubricate yours with saliva and pull them tight. Also, knots that require multiple turns of line must lie and draw up neatly, without line overlapping where it shouldn’t.

Note: Different brands and sizes of fishing line will show different strengths for the same knot. For these tests, I used Sufix Siege 8-pound-test mono. Contrary to what the label says, the unknotted breaking strength of this line tested at 12.47 pounds. The results below, averaged over 10 tests per knot, list what percentage of that unknotted breaking strength the various knots broke at. --JM