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how big is a 308. incomparsin to a 223.?

Question by willkillsdeer. Uploaded on March 31, 2009

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

I would say the difference between a 30/30 and a .22 The .223 shoots faster than the .308, it also has a flatter trajectory. The .308 has way more nock down power than a .223 It has deeper penetration and makes a much bigger wound channel. They a very different calibers and rounds in general. This is the best I can do, hope it was helpful. You wouldn't want to hunt yotes with a .308 just the same as you wouldn't want to shoot a deer with a .223

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from steve182 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

the .223 generally shoots 55gr bullets, where the common load in a .308 are 150gr or 165gr. It's signifigantly larger, and is an effective big game caliber. The .223 is not, its a varmit caliber.

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from rezavoirdog wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

.308 can have bullets 3x times the weight and size of .223.

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from KMB33 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

.85 inches bigger

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from KMB33 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

sorry, .085 inches bigger

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from usmcnate22 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

i have to disagree with you rabbitpolice well kinda. our M16A2 shoots .223 rounds. but our M240G shoots a 762 round (308 round)and shoots fully automatic. but for stopping power the 308 is definately better than the 223

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

What exactly are you disagreeing with usmcnate22? I said the .308 has way more stopping power than the .223. I would have some serious knowledge issues if I thought the .223 had more stopping power than the .308.

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from Reid Jones wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

i have hunted deer with a .223 and believe me. if you can place the bullet in a relative area to the vitals. you will kill the deer. i disagree with you rabbitpolice, some people would want to shoot deer with a .223 and i can name a bunch.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

I never met any one who hunts deer with a .223. In Ga it is the smallest gun you can hunt deer with legally. Every man is entitled to their opinion but I think it is WAY too small. All you have to do is miss one time and you have a gut shot deer that will suffer for days before it dies.

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from buddyboy564 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

i think an .223 is way to small for deer and i happen to use a .308 i also dont think that a .243 is big enough for deer but that is just my opinion...

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from steve182 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

Buddyboy, The .243 is a great deer cartridge. I've witnessed deer literally knocked off their feet by the high velocity 100 gr. from a .243. That's about twice as heavy as the .223 bullet, with signifigantly more energy.

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from shane wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

A .243 will kill a deer, so will a .223, but a .308 will do it better and faster. If the smaller cartridges are all you have, fine, use them. But if given a choice, take the .308. There is no reason to play the "how small of a gun can I get away with?" game. You have to get into the pretty big stuff before you're talking overkill for deer.

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from usmcnate22 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

i guess i read what you wrote wrong rabbit

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from hjohn429 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

It is about an inch longer and half again as wide. It probably has about twice the recoil.

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from Reid Jones wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

a 223 is the smallest caliber where i live. Nebraska. and i know tons of people that have killed deer with 223, 22-250, lots of small calibers. i know people that are stupid and have shot deer with .17s and killed them. stupid, yes. but they put the bullet in the right spot and the deer died.

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from DakotaMan wrote 5 years 1 week ago

Both kill deer just fine. I consider the .308 a superior deer cartrige because of its ability to penetrate brush much better than the fast and frangible .223. Now the way Marines use them, it is a different matter. The .308 is said to drop an attacker before he can get off another shot and I have heard several stories of an adrenilin pumped attacker taking a .223 FMJ right through the chest and still being able to unload his AK. I think the DOD chose the .223 over the .308 because troops can carry many more rounds of the lighter projectile and they discovered that hundreds of rounds get fired before anyone actually hits a combatant. The military logic really doesn't carry over into hunting very well though. Deer don't shoot back and as long as they die within a couple of seconds, they are still dead and ready to eat. We typically don't have to shoot thousands of rounds in a deer hunt and we don't have to shoot full metal jackets. To give you a perspective, my niece shot her buck at 150yds last year with a .223 55g poly tip at about 3,200 fps. The deer was almost head on. The bullet entered the upper chest, tore through about 6 or 7 spine vertebrea and exited the far side with about a 3/4 inch hole. The deer didn't run and was killed instantly. The .308 would have done about the same thing.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

Agreed with DakotaMan answer above and A + 1 for you sir!!!

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

I would say the difference between a 30/30 and a .22 The .223 shoots faster than the .308, it also has a flatter trajectory. The .308 has way more nock down power than a .223 It has deeper penetration and makes a much bigger wound channel. They a very different calibers and rounds in general. This is the best I can do, hope it was helpful. You wouldn't want to hunt yotes with a .308 just the same as you wouldn't want to shoot a deer with a .223

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from steve182 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

the .223 generally shoots 55gr bullets, where the common load in a .308 are 150gr or 165gr. It's signifigantly larger, and is an effective big game caliber. The .223 is not, its a varmit caliber.

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from rezavoirdog wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

.308 can have bullets 3x times the weight and size of .223.

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from KMB33 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

.85 inches bigger

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from KMB33 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

sorry, .085 inches bigger

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from usmcnate22 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

i have to disagree with you rabbitpolice well kinda. our M16A2 shoots .223 rounds. but our M240G shoots a 762 round (308 round)and shoots fully automatic. but for stopping power the 308 is definately better than the 223

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

What exactly are you disagreeing with usmcnate22? I said the .308 has way more stopping power than the .223. I would have some serious knowledge issues if I thought the .223 had more stopping power than the .308.

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from Reid Jones wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

i have hunted deer with a .223 and believe me. if you can place the bullet in a relative area to the vitals. you will kill the deer. i disagree with you rabbitpolice, some people would want to shoot deer with a .223 and i can name a bunch.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

I never met any one who hunts deer with a .223. In Ga it is the smallest gun you can hunt deer with legally. Every man is entitled to their opinion but I think it is WAY too small. All you have to do is miss one time and you have a gut shot deer that will suffer for days before it dies.

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from buddyboy564 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

i think an .223 is way to small for deer and i happen to use a .308 i also dont think that a .243 is big enough for deer but that is just my opinion...

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from steve182 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

Buddyboy, The .243 is a great deer cartridge. I've witnessed deer literally knocked off their feet by the high velocity 100 gr. from a .243. That's about twice as heavy as the .223 bullet, with signifigantly more energy.

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from shane wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

A .243 will kill a deer, so will a .223, but a .308 will do it better and faster. If the smaller cartridges are all you have, fine, use them. But if given a choice, take the .308. There is no reason to play the "how small of a gun can I get away with?" game. You have to get into the pretty big stuff before you're talking overkill for deer.

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from usmcnate22 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

i guess i read what you wrote wrong rabbit

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from hjohn429 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

It is about an inch longer and half again as wide. It probably has about twice the recoil.

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from Reid Jones wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

a 223 is the smallest caliber where i live. Nebraska. and i know tons of people that have killed deer with 223, 22-250, lots of small calibers. i know people that are stupid and have shot deer with .17s and killed them. stupid, yes. but they put the bullet in the right spot and the deer died.

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from DakotaMan wrote 5 years 1 week ago

Both kill deer just fine. I consider the .308 a superior deer cartrige because of its ability to penetrate brush much better than the fast and frangible .223. Now the way Marines use them, it is a different matter. The .308 is said to drop an attacker before he can get off another shot and I have heard several stories of an adrenilin pumped attacker taking a .223 FMJ right through the chest and still being able to unload his AK. I think the DOD chose the .223 over the .308 because troops can carry many more rounds of the lighter projectile and they discovered that hundreds of rounds get fired before anyone actually hits a combatant. The military logic really doesn't carry over into hunting very well though. Deer don't shoot back and as long as they die within a couple of seconds, they are still dead and ready to eat. We typically don't have to shoot thousands of rounds in a deer hunt and we don't have to shoot full metal jackets. To give you a perspective, my niece shot her buck at 150yds last year with a .223 55g poly tip at about 3,200 fps. The deer was almost head on. The bullet entered the upper chest, tore through about 6 or 7 spine vertebrea and exited the far side with about a 3/4 inch hole. The deer didn't run and was killed instantly. The .308 would have done about the same thing.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

Agreed with DakotaMan answer above and A + 1 for you sir!!!

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