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I have a rossi bull barrel .223 and was at the range and i guy told me he had one and thought it was trash I think it shoots very well just as well as my H and R 22-250 just wondering what other people thought of these inexpensive firearms

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from lovetohunt wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

I like them. I love it when you can out shoot someone with a gun that is a not even cost half as much as the otherguys. Like on the trap field you got guys walking around with $4,000 dollar shotguns and I can beat them with my shotgun that costs an eighth (1/8) of what theirs does.

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from Beekeeper wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

The only Rossi I've had experience with was a .243 that belongs to a friend of mine. The gun's chamber was reamed too deep and would not fire reliably. The company refused to correct the problem. So that he could utilize the gun we fire formed brass to fit its chamber. Necked up new .243 brass on .260 Remington dies. Necked one back down carefully until the breech would close on it tightly leaving a false shoulder, then ran the rest of the brass back through at that setting. The gun does shoot well...

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from libertyfirst wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Mixed results with the Rossi's that I have owned. I had a 92 copy that shot reasonably well but terrible luck with the "stagecoach" shotguns that I sold in my store. I guess that I'm not in the big fan category. My experience is quite a few years old and things could certainly have changed over the years. Good luck with your rifle.

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from crm3006 wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

One man's trash is another man's treasure. If your gun shoots well, use it and love it. The least expensive rifle I own, a Savage 10, took less "tweaking" to be one of the most accurate rifles I have than any of the others. As to the Rossi, I've only had one, a .410 double, and wish I still had it. A friend had one of the reproduction 62s and couldn't hit the ground with it. Rossi is no different than any other manufacturer. I have even heard some shooters don't like the Winchester Model 70, if you can believe such a thing!

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

I don't have experience with that rifle, but I can briefly tell you what I think of a man who criticizes another shooter's equipment: They do well to stay on their side of the bench and stay away from me. One shooter demonstrated his ignorance by commenting about my Model 1909 Argentine Mauser with the words, "You've got that old clunker looking pretty good!" Old clunker?
We do well to ask other shooters what they thinks of their firearm's design, performance or accuracy, because I personally find it difficult to talk and learn at the same time.
If the rifle performs well in your hands, don't let the comments of a socially retarded individual dampen your shooting enjoyment. One of the most accurate rifles I owned to reduce the varmint population was a bolt action Remington 788 in .22-250. Let me assure you, it's a plain-jane rifle, a wallflower among prom queens (as a shooting companion expressed it), but that rifle was a naildriver and it was eventually sold to someone who still appreciates it.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

The real question is what do you think!

When I was 13, I wish I had a dollar for the other shooters at a Turkey Shoot telling me I didn't have a chance with my Fathers 6.5x55 Swedish carbine with open sights. After I shot the centers out of the clays at 100yards, they were singing a deferent tune!

It’s not the arrow,
(Good arrows do help but)
It’s the Indian!

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from Kentucky Hunter wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

i have 2 of them one for my wife in a 243 it is fair she has taken 2 deer with it but it dosnt group as well as my winchester 243 the 223 i got used for my grils and its not bad at all but if buying a new gun i would spend the extra $50.00 or so and go for the marlin XL7 bolt action . wish they were avaible when i got my wifes rossie

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from 99explorer wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Aside from the merits of the argument, I think it is a major breach of shooting etiquette to speak ill of another shooter's gun in his presence, much less to his face. That's a hangin' offense where I come from.

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from Beekeeper wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Ed,

If you ever want ot get rid of the "old Argentine clunker" let me know!

Indeed one man's trash is another's treasure. I once had a Brazilian made O/U in 20 gauge that would pattern #4 and #6 high brass lead loads like a screen door. It was stocked in some type of jungle hardwood, had a varnished stock and checkering that looked like it had been rendered with a broken wine bottle. The gun was purchsed for $79 at K-Mart way....back when.

I used it for a duck gun and took my share of ribbing until the shooting started. I've never seen a 20 gauge before or since that would kill ducks like that gun. I was offerd way too much money for the gun by a friend. He still owns it!

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from rrmont wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

I say that it's not how much a gun costs, but how well one shoots the gun.

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from stanleyda wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Count yourself lucky and enjoy the gun,I don't have a rossi rifle but I do have one of their hand guns. It's a fair shooter. Many of the guns I truly enjoy are those that I have little invested, the reason being I worry less about them.

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Bee,
If I ever consider the sale of that Model 1909, you'll be the first person I contact; it really is a gem.
Ed

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from 007 wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Ignore people like that unless they're trying to offer sincere constructive criticism. They're either jealous of how well you're shooting or else some sort of gun snob. Agreed with Ed, my go to is an old Remington 788 that's had a little bit of work done to it. Your critic probably couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle that day and was likely taking it out on you.

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

ED & Double Naught good advice, also Bee good for you, people lagh at My Stevens 311, until I bag a limit of Pheasant. Then its my turn to smile!

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

laugh* up since 3:00 AM think I will go back to bed for a while see Y'all Later.

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from 007 wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Moishe, I have a Savage 911, probably a kissin' cousin to your 311. Not thing one wrong with them, is it? Mine was showing a lot of battle scars and I thought I just HAD to have another, sexier, side by side until I took a long hard look at the old 911 and what the shotgunning opportunites are around our area. Long story short, I sanded off the eye-sore of a factory finish, stained it a deep walnut, am in the process of having a nice recoil pad installed on it, and will finish up with a hand rubbed oil finish. It will be all I'll need as far as I know.

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from DakotaMan wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Each rifle shoots different. If you have one that shoots well, enjoy it and thank your lucky stars. I have seen people pay a fortune for a rifle that doesn't shoot and I have seen clunkers that drive tacks. My philosophy is to keep shooters and enjoy them. I pulled up next to four guys at the range one day who were zeroing their $3000-$6000 dollar rifles for an elk hunt. They laughed, pointed and made disparaging remarks about my old M98 Mauser (a tack driving 25-06 Niedner that shot in the .1s). I watched them shoot and they struggled to hit a 4 inch disk at 100 yards. My buddy (who was the best on our college rifle team and a little more brash than I) picked up my rifle and said "watch the wires". He proceeded to fire four shots off hand, each one clipping the wire on the hanging metal targets. He said "It seems to be shooting better than those overpriced pieces of sh#* you guys are packing." The guys packed up and left without a word as we headed down to re-hang the targets. I still think we had a little divine intervention on that one though!

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

007 Not a thing wrong with either of them, might not be as pretty as a Purdey but I bought my house for the price of a Purdey.

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from Michael Rowzee wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The firing pin in my Rossi doesn't consistently hit the primer hard enough to always fire. I found many other owners on the Internet with the same problem. I contacted RossiUSA and they won't sell a new firing pin or hammer spring. The only way to get it fixed is to send them the rifle and pay them what it would cost is almost as much as buying a new rifle at the store. I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER ROSSI!!!

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from Robert La Londe wrote 25 weeks 3 hours ago

Sad to hear the difficulties with Rossi. Sounds a little off there. I wonder if there are other parts sources other than direct from Rossi.

Anyway, I'm not a great shot to begin with so I don't have any shot the tacks out of the target stories to tell, but I've had similar fishing stories. One day I took a guy who worked with me out for a little bank side fishing. I've got a run and gun technique that will stick bass from irrigation canals very consistently on a hot summer afternoon. Just as we both were pitching into one particular spot a guy pulled up behind us and said,"Ha! Ha! Ha! There ain't no fish in there." Before he finished talking I had hooked up, and a second later my buddy hooked up.

By the time I turned to say something the joker who had pulled up behind us was spinning tires and leaving a cloud of dust behind him. I could jsut see his red face and clinched jaw. I was glad to show up a guy like that, but I am also sad that he may have learned one of my fishing "secrets." One I'll share with anybody who isn't a jerk. LOL.

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from Allistair Crowley wrote 9 weeks 18 hours ago

I agree with the other posts on this. The longest headshot I've made to date was 366.8yds with an H&R .17HMR, done at night by spotlight. I'd never question a "Value priced" firearm after a thing like that. Call it a fluke? I've made multiple successful kills at 300+ with the same weapon. Understanding a firearm's capabilities and your own skill level will always put you ahead of the game. I own a Rossi .22LR/.410 combo and it shoots perfectly. The stock iron sights are pretty sad, but with a Nikon 4x scope it'll shot as well as any .22 I've ever owned. I can't speak for the .410, as I only use it for close range pests and snakes, but in that realm it excels. I just bought a Rossi .223 complete with a 3-9x40 scope (no-name Redfield clone) and I expect it will shoot less than MOA if I do my part and the scope isn't complete trash. I'll close by saying a poor shooter with a $2,000 rifle will always lose to a true marksman with a $200 Mauser.

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

I don't have experience with that rifle, but I can briefly tell you what I think of a man who criticizes another shooter's equipment: They do well to stay on their side of the bench and stay away from me. One shooter demonstrated his ignorance by commenting about my Model 1909 Argentine Mauser with the words, "You've got that old clunker looking pretty good!" Old clunker?
We do well to ask other shooters what they thinks of their firearm's design, performance or accuracy, because I personally find it difficult to talk and learn at the same time.
If the rifle performs well in your hands, don't let the comments of a socially retarded individual dampen your shooting enjoyment. One of the most accurate rifles I owned to reduce the varmint population was a bolt action Remington 788 in .22-250. Let me assure you, it's a plain-jane rifle, a wallflower among prom queens (as a shooting companion expressed it), but that rifle was a naildriver and it was eventually sold to someone who still appreciates it.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

The real question is what do you think!

When I was 13, I wish I had a dollar for the other shooters at a Turkey Shoot telling me I didn't have a chance with my Fathers 6.5x55 Swedish carbine with open sights. After I shot the centers out of the clays at 100yards, they were singing a deferent tune!

It’s not the arrow,
(Good arrows do help but)
It’s the Indian!

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from Beekeeper wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Ed,

If you ever want ot get rid of the "old Argentine clunker" let me know!

Indeed one man's trash is another's treasure. I once had a Brazilian made O/U in 20 gauge that would pattern #4 and #6 high brass lead loads like a screen door. It was stocked in some type of jungle hardwood, had a varnished stock and checkering that looked like it had been rendered with a broken wine bottle. The gun was purchsed for $79 at K-Mart way....back when.

I used it for a duck gun and took my share of ribbing until the shooting started. I've never seen a 20 gauge before or since that would kill ducks like that gun. I was offerd way too much money for the gun by a friend. He still owns it!

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from crm3006 wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

One man's trash is another man's treasure. If your gun shoots well, use it and love it. The least expensive rifle I own, a Savage 10, took less "tweaking" to be one of the most accurate rifles I have than any of the others. As to the Rossi, I've only had one, a .410 double, and wish I still had it. A friend had one of the reproduction 62s and couldn't hit the ground with it. Rossi is no different than any other manufacturer. I have even heard some shooters don't like the Winchester Model 70, if you can believe such a thing!

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from 99explorer wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Aside from the merits of the argument, I think it is a major breach of shooting etiquette to speak ill of another shooter's gun in his presence, much less to his face. That's a hangin' offense where I come from.

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from rrmont wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

I say that it's not how much a gun costs, but how well one shoots the gun.

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from DakotaMan wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Each rifle shoots different. If you have one that shoots well, enjoy it and thank your lucky stars. I have seen people pay a fortune for a rifle that doesn't shoot and I have seen clunkers that drive tacks. My philosophy is to keep shooters and enjoy them. I pulled up next to four guys at the range one day who were zeroing their $3000-$6000 dollar rifles for an elk hunt. They laughed, pointed and made disparaging remarks about my old M98 Mauser (a tack driving 25-06 Niedner that shot in the .1s). I watched them shoot and they struggled to hit a 4 inch disk at 100 yards. My buddy (who was the best on our college rifle team and a little more brash than I) picked up my rifle and said "watch the wires". He proceeded to fire four shots off hand, each one clipping the wire on the hanging metal targets. He said "It seems to be shooting better than those overpriced pieces of sh#* you guys are packing." The guys packed up and left without a word as we headed down to re-hang the targets. I still think we had a little divine intervention on that one though!

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from stanleyda wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Count yourself lucky and enjoy the gun,I don't have a rossi rifle but I do have one of their hand guns. It's a fair shooter. Many of the guns I truly enjoy are those that I have little invested, the reason being I worry less about them.

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from 007 wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Ignore people like that unless they're trying to offer sincere constructive criticism. They're either jealous of how well you're shooting or else some sort of gun snob. Agreed with Ed, my go to is an old Remington 788 that's had a little bit of work done to it. Your critic probably couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle that day and was likely taking it out on you.

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from lovetohunt wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

I like them. I love it when you can out shoot someone with a gun that is a not even cost half as much as the otherguys. Like on the trap field you got guys walking around with $4,000 dollar shotguns and I can beat them with my shotgun that costs an eighth (1/8) of what theirs does.

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from Beekeeper wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

The only Rossi I've had experience with was a .243 that belongs to a friend of mine. The gun's chamber was reamed too deep and would not fire reliably. The company refused to correct the problem. So that he could utilize the gun we fire formed brass to fit its chamber. Necked up new .243 brass on .260 Remington dies. Necked one back down carefully until the breech would close on it tightly leaving a false shoulder, then ran the rest of the brass back through at that setting. The gun does shoot well...

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from libertyfirst wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Mixed results with the Rossi's that I have owned. I had a 92 copy that shot reasonably well but terrible luck with the "stagecoach" shotguns that I sold in my store. I guess that I'm not in the big fan category. My experience is quite a few years old and things could certainly have changed over the years. Good luck with your rifle.

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from Kentucky Hunter wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

i have 2 of them one for my wife in a 243 it is fair she has taken 2 deer with it but it dosnt group as well as my winchester 243 the 223 i got used for my grils and its not bad at all but if buying a new gun i would spend the extra $50.00 or so and go for the marlin XL7 bolt action . wish they were avaible when i got my wifes rossie

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Bee,
If I ever consider the sale of that Model 1909, you'll be the first person I contact; it really is a gem.
Ed

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from 007 wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Moishe, I have a Savage 911, probably a kissin' cousin to your 311. Not thing one wrong with them, is it? Mine was showing a lot of battle scars and I thought I just HAD to have another, sexier, side by side until I took a long hard look at the old 911 and what the shotgunning opportunites are around our area. Long story short, I sanded off the eye-sore of a factory finish, stained it a deep walnut, am in the process of having a nice recoil pad installed on it, and will finish up with a hand rubbed oil finish. It will be all I'll need as far as I know.

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

ED & Double Naught good advice, also Bee good for you, people lagh at My Stevens 311, until I bag a limit of Pheasant. Then its my turn to smile!

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

laugh* up since 3:00 AM think I will go back to bed for a while see Y'all Later.

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

007 Not a thing wrong with either of them, might not be as pretty as a Purdey but I bought my house for the price of a Purdey.

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from Robert La Londe wrote 25 weeks 3 hours ago

Sad to hear the difficulties with Rossi. Sounds a little off there. I wonder if there are other parts sources other than direct from Rossi.

Anyway, I'm not a great shot to begin with so I don't have any shot the tacks out of the target stories to tell, but I've had similar fishing stories. One day I took a guy who worked with me out for a little bank side fishing. I've got a run and gun technique that will stick bass from irrigation canals very consistently on a hot summer afternoon. Just as we both were pitching into one particular spot a guy pulled up behind us and said,"Ha! Ha! Ha! There ain't no fish in there." Before he finished talking I had hooked up, and a second later my buddy hooked up.

By the time I turned to say something the joker who had pulled up behind us was spinning tires and leaving a cloud of dust behind him. I could jsut see his red face and clinched jaw. I was glad to show up a guy like that, but I am also sad that he may have learned one of my fishing "secrets." One I'll share with anybody who isn't a jerk. LOL.

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from Michael Rowzee wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The firing pin in my Rossi doesn't consistently hit the primer hard enough to always fire. I found many other owners on the Internet with the same problem. I contacted RossiUSA and they won't sell a new firing pin or hammer spring. The only way to get it fixed is to send them the rifle and pay them what it would cost is almost as much as buying a new rifle at the store. I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER ROSSI!!!

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from Allistair Crowley wrote 9 weeks 18 hours ago

I agree with the other posts on this. The longest headshot I've made to date was 366.8yds with an H&R .17HMR, done at night by spotlight. I'd never question a "Value priced" firearm after a thing like that. Call it a fluke? I've made multiple successful kills at 300+ with the same weapon. Understanding a firearm's capabilities and your own skill level will always put you ahead of the game. I own a Rossi .22LR/.410 combo and it shoots perfectly. The stock iron sights are pretty sad, but with a Nikon 4x scope it'll shot as well as any .22 I've ever owned. I can't speak for the .410, as I only use it for close range pests and snakes, but in that realm it excels. I just bought a Rossi .223 complete with a 3-9x40 scope (no-name Redfield clone) and I expect it will shoot less than MOA if I do my part and the scope isn't complete trash. I'll close by saying a poor shooter with a $2,000 rifle will always lose to a true marksman with a $200 Mauser.

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