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I have a shotgun with a Full barrel (Not a screw in choke)can i shoot a slug out of it? and if not, why not?

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

If you mean "full-choke" barrel, the answer is yes. Slug manufacturers size their slugs to fit through any full-choke barrel of modern manufacture.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

Federal 2 3/4 inch 1oz all lead slug, I wouldn't give it a second thought!

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from PigHunter wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

You can shoot a rifled slug through a fixed full choke with no damage. The accuracy may not be as good compared to a less restricted choke and you could get increased barrel leading. Of course we're NOT talking about sabot slugs because their accuracy sucks when fired from a smooth bore. I would stick to standard loadings and stay away from heavier than standard loads.

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from LeVan Goodey wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

When I contacted Remington with the same question their answer was, absolutley not.The combination of the full choke and slug could cause excessive pressure issues.

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from Sarge01 wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

I agree with Remington. If you mike the slugs and then mike the barrel there isn't enough room. They are right you get excessive pressure and you will likely damage the choke in your barrel. My Father told me that 50 years ago but I thought that from the earlier answers that maybe something had changed but from what Remington said I supposed Father knows best.

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from Greenhead wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

I don't have anything solid to base it on, but I was always taught that shooting a slug through a full choke was a recipe for disaster. Could be an old wives' tale, but I wouldn't risk it.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

PigHunter

Dad had a Winchester Model 12 with full choke and it digested everything for Clays to quail & dove to duck & Geese to coyotes & deer with buckshot and slugs!

My Marlin 120 was the same way.

Either it's going to shoot it or not shoot it that's the answer!

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

Ordinary Foster type rifled slugs and Brenneke slugs are made of soft lead and have fins or ribs that are easily compressed to fit through choked steel barrels.
I think the saboted type slugs are the hazard to be avoided in full-choke barrels because they are jacketed.
Also, Remington "Slugger" slugs are made oversize to assure a tighter seal and improved accuracy.
One other caviat: Pre-war full choked shotgun barrels are about the same as modern turkey choked barrels.
Because of these exceptions, it is simpler to just advise against using any slugs through a full-choke barrel.

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from PigHunter wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

From Winchester:
"Rifled slugs are designed to be used in smooth barrels. We have found the best accuracy when using rifled slugs in a cylinder or modified choke."
http://www.winchester.com/learning-center/faqs/Ammunition/Pages/FAQ.aspx

From Mossberg:
Can I shoot slugs or buckshot through a "smoothbore" field barrel with Accu-Choke™ tubes? (500/505/535/9200/88/930 models)
Yes, and with sabots or rifled slugs, the more "open" the choke tube, the better the accuracy ("Improved Cylinder" recommended.) The "full" or "modified" choke tubes are preferred for buckshot loads. Slugs, buckshot and steel shot loads are not recommended for use with an extra full "turkey tube" installed, due to the tube's tight constriction. Do not fire any load without a choke tube installed, doing so will damage the internal choke tube threads.
http://www.mossberg.com/content.asp?ID=508&section=resources

Remington:
Which choke tube should be used with the Sabot Slugs? The Sabot Slug was designed for the fully rifled barrel or fully rifled choke tube.
The Slugger Rifled Slug should be used in a smooth bore barrel with an Improved Cylinder Choke Tube.
http://remington.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/186/session/L3NpZC...

Smooth Bore:
Remington Slugger Rifled Slugs (with Improved Cylinder choke tube)
Remington Express Buckshot (with Full choke tube)
http://remington.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1/related/1/page/2...

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from shane wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

Lead slugs made for smoothbores (rifled slugs) are "rifled" (spiral fins along the bearing surface of the projectile) not to impart spin (maybe a little), but to provide a "crush zone" to squeeze through chokes, but I'm not so sure about full chokes.

Given the fact that this gun has a fixed full choke, it's pretty safe to assume that it's an old one. Again, I don't feel too good about any slug through any full choke, but on an old gun I would definitely avoid it.

Modified chokes are OK, more open is better, cylinder (no choke) is best.

If you have screw in chokes and want to fire slugs through a smoothbore, make sure you put in the most open choke you have. You can't just fire it with no choke in it. Might be accurate, but it will ruin the threads.

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from RES1956 wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

Remington is pulling a CYA on this one. I do not know of an instance where anybody ever shot enough slugs through any barrel to shoot the choke out of a fixed choke gun. You certainly won't be shooting enough to do so in a hunting situation.

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from RES1956 wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

On a side note, your accuracy may suck, but I myself do not feel that it would damage the shotgun.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

This is interesting, because i shoot Remington Sluggers and it says clearly on the box "Rifled slugs can be fired though any choke but improved cylinder works best." or something such as that.

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

steve,
Thanks for the input. I was curious to know if there might be a warning on the box. I guess the Marketing Dept. prevailed over the Legal Dept. on that one.

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from DakotaMan wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

Remington's response puzzles me. I've shot a few slugs per year through full choke barrels for the last 50 years. If Remington really expected me to blow myself up, it would have been nice of them to put a warning on the box over the last 50 years since most of us waterfoul hunters used nothing but full chokes during that time. My friends, family and I continue to do this and haven't had a problem among dozens of shotguns. Accuracy of shotgun slugs is generally poor anyway so I don't see much difference between the full and modified choke. I will certainly watch for Remington's warning on their ammmo and suspect the response was a true CYA if there ever was one. They would be insane to populate ammo shelves with something that would kill the average hunter if it were used.

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from jandemason wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

i have been told to never do that its bad for it

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from LeVan Goodey wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

For what it's worth here is Remington's answer to the question of whether or not you should shoot slugs through a full choke barreled shotgun,"it is never recommended to fire slugs through a full choke the constrictions are just to tight. We recommend using an improved cylinder choke for slugs."

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from lyndonavery wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

I was told and was always under the impression that firing slugs through any type of choke was not a good thing. I have shot slugs through a Browning Auto-5 with a modified choke, the recoil was horrendous and therefore I suspended that activity indefinately.

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

The consensus seems to be that it can be done, which answers the question, but it is not a good idea. If NM has correctly quoted Remington's response, the company does not advise against it. They just don't recommend it.

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from Patrick Rooney wrote 2 years 26 weeks ago

It is absolutely fine. Older shotguns with fixed barrels are not going to be damaged from shooting a slug through it. I have a 1977 Wingmaster with a fixed full choke barrel and it shoots slugs just fine out to 60 yards or so.

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from LeVan Goodey wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

When I contacted Remington with the same question their answer was, absolutley not.The combination of the full choke and slug could cause excessive pressure issues.

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from PigHunter wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

From Winchester:
"Rifled slugs are designed to be used in smooth barrels. We have found the best accuracy when using rifled slugs in a cylinder or modified choke."
http://www.winchester.com/learning-center/faqs/Ammunition/Pages/FAQ.aspx

From Mossberg:
Can I shoot slugs or buckshot through a "smoothbore" field barrel with Accu-Choke™ tubes? (500/505/535/9200/88/930 models)
Yes, and with sabots or rifled slugs, the more "open" the choke tube, the better the accuracy ("Improved Cylinder" recommended.) The "full" or "modified" choke tubes are preferred for buckshot loads. Slugs, buckshot and steel shot loads are not recommended for use with an extra full "turkey tube" installed, due to the tube's tight constriction. Do not fire any load without a choke tube installed, doing so will damage the internal choke tube threads.
http://www.mossberg.com/content.asp?ID=508&section=resources

Remington:
Which choke tube should be used with the Sabot Slugs? The Sabot Slug was designed for the fully rifled barrel or fully rifled choke tube.
The Slugger Rifled Slug should be used in a smooth bore barrel with an Improved Cylinder Choke Tube.
http://remington.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/186/session/L3NpZC...

Smooth Bore:
Remington Slugger Rifled Slugs (with Improved Cylinder choke tube)
Remington Express Buckshot (with Full choke tube)
http://remington.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1/related/1/page/2...

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from PigHunter wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

You can shoot a rifled slug through a fixed full choke with no damage. The accuracy may not be as good compared to a less restricted choke and you could get increased barrel leading. Of course we're NOT talking about sabot slugs because their accuracy sucks when fired from a smooth bore. I would stick to standard loadings and stay away from heavier than standard loads.

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from RES1956 wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

Remington is pulling a CYA on this one. I do not know of an instance where anybody ever shot enough slugs through any barrel to shoot the choke out of a fixed choke gun. You certainly won't be shooting enough to do so in a hunting situation.

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

If you mean "full-choke" barrel, the answer is yes. Slug manufacturers size their slugs to fit through any full-choke barrel of modern manufacture.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

Federal 2 3/4 inch 1oz all lead slug, I wouldn't give it a second thought!

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from Sarge01 wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

I agree with Remington. If you mike the slugs and then mike the barrel there isn't enough room. They are right you get excessive pressure and you will likely damage the choke in your barrel. My Father told me that 50 years ago but I thought that from the earlier answers that maybe something had changed but from what Remington said I supposed Father knows best.

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from Greenhead wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

I don't have anything solid to base it on, but I was always taught that shooting a slug through a full choke was a recipe for disaster. Could be an old wives' tale, but I wouldn't risk it.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

PigHunter

Dad had a Winchester Model 12 with full choke and it digested everything for Clays to quail & dove to duck & Geese to coyotes & deer with buckshot and slugs!

My Marlin 120 was the same way.

Either it's going to shoot it or not shoot it that's the answer!

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

Ordinary Foster type rifled slugs and Brenneke slugs are made of soft lead and have fins or ribs that are easily compressed to fit through choked steel barrels.
I think the saboted type slugs are the hazard to be avoided in full-choke barrels because they are jacketed.
Also, Remington "Slugger" slugs are made oversize to assure a tighter seal and improved accuracy.
One other caviat: Pre-war full choked shotgun barrels are about the same as modern turkey choked barrels.
Because of these exceptions, it is simpler to just advise against using any slugs through a full-choke barrel.

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from shane wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

Lead slugs made for smoothbores (rifled slugs) are "rifled" (spiral fins along the bearing surface of the projectile) not to impart spin (maybe a little), but to provide a "crush zone" to squeeze through chokes, but I'm not so sure about full chokes.

Given the fact that this gun has a fixed full choke, it's pretty safe to assume that it's an old one. Again, I don't feel too good about any slug through any full choke, but on an old gun I would definitely avoid it.

Modified chokes are OK, more open is better, cylinder (no choke) is best.

If you have screw in chokes and want to fire slugs through a smoothbore, make sure you put in the most open choke you have. You can't just fire it with no choke in it. Might be accurate, but it will ruin the threads.

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from RES1956 wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

On a side note, your accuracy may suck, but I myself do not feel that it would damage the shotgun.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

This is interesting, because i shoot Remington Sluggers and it says clearly on the box "Rifled slugs can be fired though any choke but improved cylinder works best." or something such as that.

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

steve,
Thanks for the input. I was curious to know if there might be a warning on the box. I guess the Marketing Dept. prevailed over the Legal Dept. on that one.

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from DakotaMan wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

Remington's response puzzles me. I've shot a few slugs per year through full choke barrels for the last 50 years. If Remington really expected me to blow myself up, it would have been nice of them to put a warning on the box over the last 50 years since most of us waterfoul hunters used nothing but full chokes during that time. My friends, family and I continue to do this and haven't had a problem among dozens of shotguns. Accuracy of shotgun slugs is generally poor anyway so I don't see much difference between the full and modified choke. I will certainly watch for Remington's warning on their ammmo and suspect the response was a true CYA if there ever was one. They would be insane to populate ammo shelves with something that would kill the average hunter if it were used.

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from jandemason wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

i have been told to never do that its bad for it

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from lyndonavery wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

I was told and was always under the impression that firing slugs through any type of choke was not a good thing. I have shot slugs through a Browning Auto-5 with a modified choke, the recoil was horrendous and therefore I suspended that activity indefinately.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from LeVan Goodey wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

For what it's worth here is Remington's answer to the question of whether or not you should shoot slugs through a full choke barreled shotgun,"it is never recommended to fire slugs through a full choke the constrictions are just to tight. We recommend using an improved cylinder choke for slugs."

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 37 weeks ago

The consensus seems to be that it can be done, which answers the question, but it is not a good idea. If NM has correctly quoted Remington's response, the company does not advise against it. They just don't recommend it.

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from Patrick Rooney wrote 2 years 26 weeks ago

It is absolutely fine. Older shotguns with fixed barrels are not going to be damaged from shooting a slug through it. I have a 1977 Wingmaster with a fixed full choke barrel and it shoots slugs just fine out to 60 yards or so.

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