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June 07, 2010

Hurteau: Toledo Cop Facing Jail Over Whitetail Fawn

By Dave Hurteau

Here’s a hypothetical: You’re motoring down the highway when doe bounds from the roadside grasses. You jump on the brake pedal, but it’s too late. After pulling your smoking rig off the blacktop, you see that there’s nothing to do for the doe—but a rustle in the grass reveals a just-born fawn. It can’t be more than hours old, and is utterly helpless. What do you do?

Leave it? Or help it?

Of course, no one would blame you for helping the poor thing. Anyone would understand that when you’re actually staring into the big, brown eyes of a helpless baby deer whose mother you’re going to turn into sausage, it’s tough to just leave it there.

On the other hand, if you help it, one thing can lead to another. Just ask Toledo police Sgt. Mark Fry, whose predicament is only slightly different from our hypothetical.

From Fox Toledo News:

So I’ll ask again: What do you do with the baby deer by the side of the road?

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from Sienkos wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

It may seem cold, but in the end it is a wild animal and in my opinion does not belong in our care. Nature has its way and although we may intervene and cause such instances as this, how many fawns are left orphaned by road kills and go unnoticed? Quite a few I would imagine. This is one animal and hardly worth all this hullabaloo, but i digress.

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from Bella wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

As if our jails aren't full enough already...bah!
No one should be punished for a compassionate act. I don't know what point officaldom is making here, but Isn't a good cop more valuable to society than yet another Zek?
So what If he rescued a fawn whose mother had died? How often do we hear of public resources used to save baby ducks or stray kittens stuck down drainpipes? How is rescuing a motherless fawn different? Respect for Life people!
After all even if the fawn grows up and becomes a problem, it can still be somebody's tasty venison stew! Let any punishment neccesary fit the crime proportionally to any harm done. What harm was done? Give the cop a demerit then if one must, but jail will cost Ohio tens of thousands of dollars better spent on other things. Or does Ohio really need more prisoners?

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from kyle wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

1) Go to jail for hepling a animal out.

2) Don't go to jail for being in America illegaly.

Whats wrong with this picture?

Come on here there is alot more issues that we should be worrying about! She should get a pat on the back for doing more at her job description, its called going beond the call of duty. I remeber watching a show on Fox awhile ago, in Calaforina firefighters gave CPR to a new born deer. People take pets to the vet when they get hit by a car don't they? Your helping an animal out right? So every one that took a hit pet to the vet should get jail time. Same thing here.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I know most people dont have the time and skill required, or live where it would be possible to raise the fawn, but I would bring it home, put it on goats milk of lamb milk replacer for 3 months, untill it goes off on its own.If its a buck I just feed it and do not give it any extra attention, so he wont be a problem when he matures. Luckily our DNR says go ahead, just dont confine it after weaned off the bottle, because they dont want to deal with it. I dont know about all of you let nature take its course guys, but at least I could sleep at night.We kill alot of deer every season but I cant walk away from an actual "orphaned" fawn.I wonder if the Ohio dnr puts this much time and effort in all its poaching tips and investigations or are they just trying to drive home a point, with these people, who have done nothing wrong. Screw em

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I would take the fawn home and enjoy having it around for a few days and hope the DNR takes it off my hands. Those cute little critters grow up to me very sizeable animals. I'm not sure if the police officer knows what he is getting into.

Despite all the good intention, the law is still the law and as a police officer I would hope he would understand that.

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from jamesti wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

the law says you can't keep a wild animal and it is for good reason. i doubt they would get jail time but they do need to follow the law. if this officer tries to get around the rule of law, then who is he to enforce it? the DNR will do what is best for this fawn and don't just go around trying to kill them.

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from jamesti wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

the above being said, the DNR cannot just make promises on a whim just like we as parents can't do that with our children.

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from iwfeeney wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

While the story above is accurate, it fails to leave out the reason why the ODNR is pursuing the case. It is illegal to keep a penned deer for fear of Chronic Wasting Disease spreading to the herd. Make a little more sense now? While it's all good intentions, and I'm sure many would do the same, you have to let it go to prevent CWD. Ohio has some of the best deer hunting in the nation. For it to be ruined by CWD would cause many more people to be harmed than just the couple who don't want the deer to be euthanized. The ODNR is just doing its job for the hunters of Ohio.

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from kyle wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I miss understood a little. I did not know that she took it home, never watched the video. I just assumed being a police officer she told the proper athorities to handle it. I just thought that she just resuced the deer. Like some said the law is the law. Just kind of sad that even her intentions were good she still gets penalized. Mabe with the ateention of this situation will let people realize thats illegal to take a wild game home. Now people will be aware what to do in a situation. With haveing good intentions its still best to have the proper athorities handle it.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

How is a wild fawn that is born in an area without cwd going to spread it? I totally agree nobody should bring home and confine wild animals, thats just common sense and the law.Probably over %90 of the "orphaned" fawns people find, are right where their mother left them, and will be back, if they just leave them alone.But, in the odd case one is orphaned, if the dnrs only action is to kill it, you should be able to get it thru untill it can go off on its own, as long as you are not confineing it.

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from Dcast wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

This is complete rubbish! As an Ohioian I would like to see the Odnr officer(s) involved in this fired for wasting tax payers dollars on frivolous lawsuits! Take the damn deer and do something with it, but do not pursue it any further than that. I can't believe this is an issue worth wasting much needed money on something so assinine!

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from babsfish4life wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Learn a lesson from all this, if you have the compassion to take home an orphaned baby deer, don't tell everybody about the "cute baby deer" in your backyard. It will lead the law to be forced to make an example of you. If it had not recieve the attention that it had the DNR would probably not care but now they ignore it because it would make them look like they pick and choose the laws they choose to follow. The DNR is in a dilemma that I can see is a tought decision from both sides.

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from buckeyebuckbuster wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I live within a few miles - The night this happened it was on the all the stations and in the newspapers the next day; they made the officer out to be a hero and gave the impression that taking the deer home was the right decision. NEVER did I see or read that a reporter contacted any animal control officer or the DNR for a recommendation of what to do or the fact that what the guy did was ILLEGAL. (I told my wife that the DNR will have to get involved because of all the press and the precedent this sets.) Don't for a minute think this is about ONE incident - this is enforcing the law that has protected Ohio's deer herd from CWD and other diseases. I understand what this looks like on the surface but if you lived here and saw all the initial media coverage (and didn't know the law) you would be "rescuing" every baby animal you saw and thinking you were doing them a huge favor.

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Hum. ive saved an eagle when i was like 13 and i still remember the baby seal my dad brought home when i was a kid that had got hurt and was starving.. And im not conserned about legality about it here in norway. we havent legally abandoned compassion, be it on two or four legs or wings. But taking home wildlife just because is still wrong. the right place for wildlife is in the wild.
yall r still fubar though IMHO :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhfzaWNGDRU

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

If they let the fawn go in the woods there is a good chance it will be adopted by another doe. Of course it could just as easily be coyote bait.

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from babsfish4life wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

ingebrigtsen, "right place for wildlife is in the wild." Is correct, but this situation that we are discussing is between temporary captivity and death, not captivity and wild. CWD is the reason for the law, but this situation does not increase the chance of spreading CWD in the least. The issue is captive deer mingling with sick captive deer, then mingling with wild deer. But you have to write laws in the way that this situation is illegal.

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from Blue Ox wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

If they think they can rehabilitate this animal- I don't see any harm in letting them. Besides, I think there are other problems out there that need more immediate attention than a cop who added a little compassion to his 'protect serve' job description. Kudos for them.

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from 86Ram wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

What a waste of resources and tax payer money. They have other more crucial and pressing things to pursue such as immigration, gangs, drugs, murders, rapes and thefts.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Who in the hell is in charge up there, they should be fired! IDIOTS!

I have a friend who has a doe in the backyard and just this last deer season had a Buck come to visit by jumping over the 6ft high fence!

Several years ago, two Wildlife Officers were fired because they shot a Javelins self protection during an attack.

This hoopla proves beyond a shadow of dought how ignorant and flat out stupid government officials can get. Notice I didn't capitalize government officials, there not worthy of my respect!

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from rock rat wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

There are very good reasons for laws about wild animals. I wouldn't kill the doe and turn it into venison veal for the very same reason I wouldn't take it home to feed it etc.

I'm not sure what percentage of does get eaten by cats and bears around here but it's high. Spring is a time of new animals and also a time for the predators. It's good the issue of the officer is making the news in that I hope it's a teachable moment for the general public.

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from jfgann66 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Stupid law! For instance I had someone hit a deer in front of my house the deer mortaly wounded was trying to get up and falling back and was going back into the road. I went back to the house got the shotgun. Well guess what I broke the law! Now lets think about this for a second the deer was mortally wounded it was in danger of going back out in to the road and getting hit again. Not to mention it was hunting season, and it tasted great I used my tag on it. But still I broke the law. I was told later that being right and being legal are not always the same thing. Isn't it funny how the police can choose to inforce this law but not choose to inforce others. We are broke here in America!

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from 24scottk wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

We all know jail time won't happen in this situation, but it'll be interesting to see how far a police officer will take this with the possibility of losing his job over it?? Keep us updated Scott.

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from Firehunter wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Please read the following article from "The Toledo Blade" written by Steve Pollick, a very well respected outdoor writer. It gives a very good explination why the Ohio DNR is so strict on keeping orphaned fawns.

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20100608/COLUMNIST22/6080336/-1/SPORT...

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from arky_hunter wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Well i guess if he gets fired they can move to arkansas we dont have stupid laws like that here and we could use a good officer or two in our area just sounds like another way to control people if you ask me

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from Bones812 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Leave it let nature take its course.

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from AJMcClure wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

We picked up a deer that was hit badly and slit its throat, we threw the 40lber in the Jeep Cherokee, and went to town to skin it out, we didn't want to waste the meat. Eight miles down the road yearling came to, and began kicking and gurgling and we didn't have room to pull over and do anything about. The purple heart Marine said that I didn't cut it worth a shit, and I said that I thought I did, stabbing in the throat and running my knife across the throat. The deer stopped kicking and then started again for aprox.- way too f'n long.It bounced around an opened undersized ice chest, then stopped before we got home. We opened the trunk and blood was slung all over, its head barely attached, the next day we took it to the butcher to be made into summer sausage and I ended up being the one that carried it in to the butcher-I felt like an ass carrying that 6 month old deer in to the butcher's,now around 18lbs ,but explained that it was a mercy roadkill. Which made it bearable, just glad the one legged devil dog picked up all 2 sticks of summer sausages and got charged full price for the deer and the sausages. I went home and sharpened, and resharpened all my knives.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

AJMCclure- without a salvage tag from the sherrif or game warden that was just as illegal as bringing an orphaned fawn home.

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from swilmot1 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

well letting nature take it course is fine but the mother got killed by a vehicle i dont think mother nature has cars running through it. The Cop did the right thing, the mother was killed by accident by him and he felt like he needed to nurse the fawn because he took the mothers life! Is that really bad? I can see someone taking a newborn because they think it would be neat to have well they should be punished. This fawn clearly didnt have a chance because the mother died of not A NATURAL CAUSE so why does the fawn have to suffer because of us??

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Last fall I was driving on a busy local highway and noticed a mature buck in the roadside grass watching traffic go by. Turned out he had been hit and both back legs were broken below the hocks. He could do nothing but lay there and watch traffic but had no damage to the body. A call to the local police got an officer on the spot in a few minutes. He put the buck down, issued a salvage tag and helped load him into my truck. Talk about an easy 300 lb deer, this was it. You can see pics of this buck by clicking my username and looking in the photo files. He is the biggest 8 point I have ever gotten. I had the buck butchered and donated the meat.

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/trophyroom/recent/single?pnid=10013... Here is the link if it will work.

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

While wild animal babies are cute and cuddly I would not try to raise them. A few years ago a family in Western Kansas adopted several baby foxes. When one got sick and died they took it to the vet. Turned out it died from Rabies and the whole family plus all the friends that had petted these little foxes had to have shots. The shots are no longer in the stomach but the cost is $10,000 each. Got this story from the drug company rep that sold the vacine.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

I used to deal with this on a weekly basis. I advised that in cases like this to leave the fawn alone and let nature take its course. Humans don't make good mothers and DNR's don't have the money to waste( the hunters pay the money) to try to raise deer like this. I have seen it tried and it doesn't work. If I had been there the doe would had been donated if it hadn't been not torn up too bad, and the fawn would have probably been dispatched by me. When people called me and had hit a deer I gave them permission to kill the deer if they had a gun with them. All the tree huggers jump on me, but this was our practice within our department. I was the DNR. Little deer grow up and hurt people and even kill people. I smell a pi##ing match between departments in this case.

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from WesMcCormick wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I'm so sick of hearing the CWD excuse for things. According to the CWD Alliance, 11 states have found CDW. Of those 11 states, 4 of them have only 1 county affected, 1 state with 5, another with 3, 1 with 2, and Colorado is overflowing.
Its just like the feeding/ food plot debate, a lot of people said it would cause CWD. Gimme a break people, it sounds like hunters have become afraid of CWD the same as the public has become of terrorist. Watch out you never know where they'll pop up.
Drop any charges and leave the guy alone, He's doing the right thing, as long as he's not using the city's funds to take care of the deer who cares!

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from grant77 wrote 1 year 45 weeks ago

he definatly should have left it

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from Bella wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

As if our jails aren't full enough already...bah!
No one should be punished for a compassionate act. I don't know what point officaldom is making here, but Isn't a good cop more valuable to society than yet another Zek?
So what If he rescued a fawn whose mother had died? How often do we hear of public resources used to save baby ducks or stray kittens stuck down drainpipes? How is rescuing a motherless fawn different? Respect for Life people!
After all even if the fawn grows up and becomes a problem, it can still be somebody's tasty venison stew! Let any punishment neccesary fit the crime proportionally to any harm done. What harm was done? Give the cop a demerit then if one must, but jail will cost Ohio tens of thousands of dollars better spent on other things. Or does Ohio really need more prisoners?

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from kyle wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

1) Go to jail for hepling a animal out.

2) Don't go to jail for being in America illegaly.

Whats wrong with this picture?

Come on here there is alot more issues that we should be worrying about! She should get a pat on the back for doing more at her job description, its called going beond the call of duty. I remeber watching a show on Fox awhile ago, in Calaforina firefighters gave CPR to a new born deer. People take pets to the vet when they get hit by a car don't they? Your helping an animal out right? So every one that took a hit pet to the vet should get jail time. Same thing here.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I know most people dont have the time and skill required, or live where it would be possible to raise the fawn, but I would bring it home, put it on goats milk of lamb milk replacer for 3 months, untill it goes off on its own.If its a buck I just feed it and do not give it any extra attention, so he wont be a problem when he matures. Luckily our DNR says go ahead, just dont confine it after weaned off the bottle, because they dont want to deal with it. I dont know about all of you let nature take its course guys, but at least I could sleep at night.We kill alot of deer every season but I cant walk away from an actual "orphaned" fawn.I wonder if the Ohio dnr puts this much time and effort in all its poaching tips and investigations or are they just trying to drive home a point, with these people, who have done nothing wrong. Screw em

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from iwfeeney wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

While the story above is accurate, it fails to leave out the reason why the ODNR is pursuing the case. It is illegal to keep a penned deer for fear of Chronic Wasting Disease spreading to the herd. Make a little more sense now? While it's all good intentions, and I'm sure many would do the same, you have to let it go to prevent CWD. Ohio has some of the best deer hunting in the nation. For it to be ruined by CWD would cause many more people to be harmed than just the couple who don't want the deer to be euthanized. The ODNR is just doing its job for the hunters of Ohio.

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from buckeyebuckbuster wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I live within a few miles - The night this happened it was on the all the stations and in the newspapers the next day; they made the officer out to be a hero and gave the impression that taking the deer home was the right decision. NEVER did I see or read that a reporter contacted any animal control officer or the DNR for a recommendation of what to do or the fact that what the guy did was ILLEGAL. (I told my wife that the DNR will have to get involved because of all the press and the precedent this sets.) Don't for a minute think this is about ONE incident - this is enforcing the law that has protected Ohio's deer herd from CWD and other diseases. I understand what this looks like on the surface but if you lived here and saw all the initial media coverage (and didn't know the law) you would be "rescuing" every baby animal you saw and thinking you were doing them a huge favor.

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from jamesti wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

the law says you can't keep a wild animal and it is for good reason. i doubt they would get jail time but they do need to follow the law. if this officer tries to get around the rule of law, then who is he to enforce it? the DNR will do what is best for this fawn and don't just go around trying to kill them.

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from kyle wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I miss understood a little. I did not know that she took it home, never watched the video. I just assumed being a police officer she told the proper athorities to handle it. I just thought that she just resuced the deer. Like some said the law is the law. Just kind of sad that even her intentions were good she still gets penalized. Mabe with the ateention of this situation will let people realize thats illegal to take a wild game home. Now people will be aware what to do in a situation. With haveing good intentions its still best to have the proper athorities handle it.

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Hum. ive saved an eagle when i was like 13 and i still remember the baby seal my dad brought home when i was a kid that had got hurt and was starving.. And im not conserned about legality about it here in norway. we havent legally abandoned compassion, be it on two or four legs or wings. But taking home wildlife just because is still wrong. the right place for wildlife is in the wild.
yall r still fubar though IMHO :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhfzaWNGDRU

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from Blue Ox wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

If they think they can rehabilitate this animal- I don't see any harm in letting them. Besides, I think there are other problems out there that need more immediate attention than a cop who added a little compassion to his 'protect serve' job description. Kudos for them.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I would take the fawn home and enjoy having it around for a few days and hope the DNR takes it off my hands. Those cute little critters grow up to me very sizeable animals. I'm not sure if the police officer knows what he is getting into.

Despite all the good intention, the law is still the law and as a police officer I would hope he would understand that.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

How is a wild fawn that is born in an area without cwd going to spread it? I totally agree nobody should bring home and confine wild animals, thats just common sense and the law.Probably over %90 of the "orphaned" fawns people find, are right where their mother left them, and will be back, if they just leave them alone.But, in the odd case one is orphaned, if the dnrs only action is to kill it, you should be able to get it thru untill it can go off on its own, as long as you are not confineing it.

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from Dcast wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

This is complete rubbish! As an Ohioian I would like to see the Odnr officer(s) involved in this fired for wasting tax payers dollars on frivolous lawsuits! Take the damn deer and do something with it, but do not pursue it any further than that. I can't believe this is an issue worth wasting much needed money on something so assinine!

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from babsfish4life wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Learn a lesson from all this, if you have the compassion to take home an orphaned baby deer, don't tell everybody about the "cute baby deer" in your backyard. It will lead the law to be forced to make an example of you. If it had not recieve the attention that it had the DNR would probably not care but now they ignore it because it would make them look like they pick and choose the laws they choose to follow. The DNR is in a dilemma that I can see is a tought decision from both sides.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

If they let the fawn go in the woods there is a good chance it will be adopted by another doe. Of course it could just as easily be coyote bait.

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from babsfish4life wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

ingebrigtsen, "right place for wildlife is in the wild." Is correct, but this situation that we are discussing is between temporary captivity and death, not captivity and wild. CWD is the reason for the law, but this situation does not increase the chance of spreading CWD in the least. The issue is captive deer mingling with sick captive deer, then mingling with wild deer. But you have to write laws in the way that this situation is illegal.

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from 86Ram wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

What a waste of resources and tax payer money. They have other more crucial and pressing things to pursue such as immigration, gangs, drugs, murders, rapes and thefts.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Who in the hell is in charge up there, they should be fired! IDIOTS!

I have a friend who has a doe in the backyard and just this last deer season had a Buck come to visit by jumping over the 6ft high fence!

Several years ago, two Wildlife Officers were fired because they shot a Javelins self protection during an attack.

This hoopla proves beyond a shadow of dought how ignorant and flat out stupid government officials can get. Notice I didn't capitalize government officials, there not worthy of my respect!

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from swilmot1 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

well letting nature take it course is fine but the mother got killed by a vehicle i dont think mother nature has cars running through it. The Cop did the right thing, the mother was killed by accident by him and he felt like he needed to nurse the fawn because he took the mothers life! Is that really bad? I can see someone taking a newborn because they think it would be neat to have well they should be punished. This fawn clearly didnt have a chance because the mother died of not A NATURAL CAUSE so why does the fawn have to suffer because of us??

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from grant77 wrote 1 year 45 weeks ago

he definatly should have left it

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from Sienkos wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

It may seem cold, but in the end it is a wild animal and in my opinion does not belong in our care. Nature has its way and although we may intervene and cause such instances as this, how many fawns are left orphaned by road kills and go unnoticed? Quite a few I would imagine. This is one animal and hardly worth all this hullabaloo, but i digress.

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from jamesti wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

the above being said, the DNR cannot just make promises on a whim just like we as parents can't do that with our children.

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from rock rat wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

There are very good reasons for laws about wild animals. I wouldn't kill the doe and turn it into venison veal for the very same reason I wouldn't take it home to feed it etc.

I'm not sure what percentage of does get eaten by cats and bears around here but it's high. Spring is a time of new animals and also a time for the predators. It's good the issue of the officer is making the news in that I hope it's a teachable moment for the general public.

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from jfgann66 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Stupid law! For instance I had someone hit a deer in front of my house the deer mortaly wounded was trying to get up and falling back and was going back into the road. I went back to the house got the shotgun. Well guess what I broke the law! Now lets think about this for a second the deer was mortally wounded it was in danger of going back out in to the road and getting hit again. Not to mention it was hunting season, and it tasted great I used my tag on it. But still I broke the law. I was told later that being right and being legal are not always the same thing. Isn't it funny how the police can choose to inforce this law but not choose to inforce others. We are broke here in America!

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from 24scottk wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

We all know jail time won't happen in this situation, but it'll be interesting to see how far a police officer will take this with the possibility of losing his job over it?? Keep us updated Scott.

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from Firehunter wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Please read the following article from "The Toledo Blade" written by Steve Pollick, a very well respected outdoor writer. It gives a very good explination why the Ohio DNR is so strict on keeping orphaned fawns.

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20100608/COLUMNIST22/6080336/-1/SPORT...

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from arky_hunter wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Well i guess if he gets fired they can move to arkansas we dont have stupid laws like that here and we could use a good officer or two in our area just sounds like another way to control people if you ask me

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from Bones812 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Leave it let nature take its course.

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from AJMcClure wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

We picked up a deer that was hit badly and slit its throat, we threw the 40lber in the Jeep Cherokee, and went to town to skin it out, we didn't want to waste the meat. Eight miles down the road yearling came to, and began kicking and gurgling and we didn't have room to pull over and do anything about. The purple heart Marine said that I didn't cut it worth a shit, and I said that I thought I did, stabbing in the throat and running my knife across the throat. The deer stopped kicking and then started again for aprox.- way too f'n long.It bounced around an opened undersized ice chest, then stopped before we got home. We opened the trunk and blood was slung all over, its head barely attached, the next day we took it to the butcher to be made into summer sausage and I ended up being the one that carried it in to the butcher-I felt like an ass carrying that 6 month old deer in to the butcher's,now around 18lbs ,but explained that it was a mercy roadkill. Which made it bearable, just glad the one legged devil dog picked up all 2 sticks of summer sausages and got charged full price for the deer and the sausages. I went home and sharpened, and resharpened all my knives.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

AJMCclure- without a salvage tag from the sherrif or game warden that was just as illegal as bringing an orphaned fawn home.

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Last fall I was driving on a busy local highway and noticed a mature buck in the roadside grass watching traffic go by. Turned out he had been hit and both back legs were broken below the hocks. He could do nothing but lay there and watch traffic but had no damage to the body. A call to the local police got an officer on the spot in a few minutes. He put the buck down, issued a salvage tag and helped load him into my truck. Talk about an easy 300 lb deer, this was it. You can see pics of this buck by clicking my username and looking in the photo files. He is the biggest 8 point I have ever gotten. I had the buck butchered and donated the meat.

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/trophyroom/recent/single?pnid=10013... Here is the link if it will work.

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

While wild animal babies are cute and cuddly I would not try to raise them. A few years ago a family in Western Kansas adopted several baby foxes. When one got sick and died they took it to the vet. Turned out it died from Rabies and the whole family plus all the friends that had petted these little foxes had to have shots. The shots are no longer in the stomach but the cost is $10,000 each. Got this story from the drug company rep that sold the vacine.

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from WesMcCormick wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I'm so sick of hearing the CWD excuse for things. According to the CWD Alliance, 11 states have found CDW. Of those 11 states, 4 of them have only 1 county affected, 1 state with 5, another with 3, 1 with 2, and Colorado is overflowing.
Its just like the feeding/ food plot debate, a lot of people said it would cause CWD. Gimme a break people, it sounds like hunters have become afraid of CWD the same as the public has become of terrorist. Watch out you never know where they'll pop up.
Drop any charges and leave the guy alone, He's doing the right thing, as long as he's not using the city's funds to take care of the deer who cares!

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

I used to deal with this on a weekly basis. I advised that in cases like this to leave the fawn alone and let nature take its course. Humans don't make good mothers and DNR's don't have the money to waste( the hunters pay the money) to try to raise deer like this. I have seen it tried and it doesn't work. If I had been there the doe would had been donated if it hadn't been not torn up too bad, and the fawn would have probably been dispatched by me. When people called me and had hit a deer I gave them permission to kill the deer if they had a gun with them. All the tree huggers jump on me, but this was our practice within our department. I was the DNR. Little deer grow up and hurt people and even kill people. I smell a pi##ing match between departments in this case.

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