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Deer Hunting

Best White-Tail Muzzleloader

Uploaded on December 09, 2010

So, last couple years I've bounced around a bit with muzzleloaders. None of them have been mine. Last couple years I used my fathers ol CVA Firebolt inline in a .54 cal. Before that a T/C break action .50 cal. And before that a 30 carbine. I like the .54 cause i can do 2x60gr pyrodex pellets behind a .44 sabot. Time to get one, cause Vermont is doing an october doe only muzzleloader season. However, 2/3 weekends that i muzzleloader are in sub 0 Vermont temperatures with snow, etc. My current inline always gets jammed up with snow between the primer and bolt, and the bolt freezes up and fails to strike the cap most of the time in the woods. But the firing pin freezing up also happens on my dads new, T/C .50 break. Now, I'm looking for a .54 cal. Something dependable in all conditions, snowtight, with 20-22 inch barrel. No scope (hahah try using a scope without caps up here in dec). Some primer setup where i dont need a tool to put the caps in, and pliers to take the caps off. (I'm open to 11's or 209's)

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

i shoot a T/C omega in .50 cal. its not a break open breech and its got a good seal around the breech. primer can be inserted and removed by hand. i hunt in michigans late muzzleloader and we get some days around 0 as well and it has never failed to go off. i shoot 3 50 grain pellets and a 250 grain hornady sst out of it. the guns is good out to 200 yards. there pretty cheap right now as well, as long as you take care of it, that gun will always go off.

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from Cgull wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

I like the CVA Accura in 45 or 50. I have on of each and both put down whitetail and black bear just as fast as the other.

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from Christopher Spangler wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

I have had serveral, the one I settled on was the cva wolf. It was inexpensive and is a break open. I can remove the primer by hand, nothing gets into the primer area since it closed. The most important feature for me was cleaning, with a break open style and removable breech it is easy to clean and I don't have to take apart half the gun like you do with inlines. I have a scope on mine but the open sights are true glo and amazing. I no joke can group 1 at 100 yards when using my sled. Not bad performance outa a gun that is readi pak'd for less then 200.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Think I'd go with the T/C Omega. Just my opinion!

Bubba

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from VT wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

I think im going with the T/C Encore.

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

I have had no luck with the T/C products. My CVA Optima Pro shoots great and I have killed several deer with it, and I hear the CVA Accura is an outstanding firearm.

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

I was at my Buddy's sport shop today and he had 6 new T/C Encore muzzleloaders that the hammer would not cock. He called the company and they said there was a problem and to return them to fix it. He also told me the rumor around the sporting goods business is that T/C may be on the verge of bankruptcy. That dosen't really surprise me.

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

sarge,
are these problems only occuring in their new products? i have at T/C that is probably 4 years old, i havent had any issues with it....yet.

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

As far as I know the problem is only with the new guns.

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from chuckles wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

I am a fan of the CVA Optima Elite but I think you have to get an Apex now to get centerfire/muzzleloader interchangeability. I have an Optima Pro as well. Both are accurate and have never failed to go off. It gets a little chilly here in MN too.
Anyway for the price I think you get a lot of value with the CVA products. Happy hunting!
Oh, by the way I also think it is worth trying Blackhorn 209 if you are willing to go the loose powder route. I have been impressed with the consistency and power plus no crud ring.

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from buckshot89 wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

gents, i like all of the muzzleloaders that have been named, however i carry none of these. i carry a rossi 50 cal muzzleloader. she breaks open to place the primer and i've never had any problems with her freezing shut during ohio's muzzleloader season; there is generally a good foot of snow on the ground most of the time. she is also a tack driver...
good hunting gents.

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from hfedder40 wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

go for a traditions tracker 209 50 cal i just got one for christmas aesome shot 150 yards with iron sight out of box they are on sale at cabelas 100.00 or so

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from DSMbirddog wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

I have a T/C Omega as well. I've hunted in the snow and 0-10 degrees many times during the late muzleloader season in Iowa. The seal around the primer is very good and it always goes bang. No 54 caliber though.

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from hfedder40 wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

go for a traditions tracker 209 50 cal i just got one for christmas aesome shot 150 yards with iron sight out of box they are on sale at cabelas 100.00 or so

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

i shoot a T/C omega in .50 cal. its not a break open breech and its got a good seal around the breech. primer can be inserted and removed by hand. i hunt in michigans late muzzleloader and we get some days around 0 as well and it has never failed to go off. i shoot 3 50 grain pellets and a 250 grain hornady sst out of it. the guns is good out to 200 yards. there pretty cheap right now as well, as long as you take care of it, that gun will always go off.

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from Cgull wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

I like the CVA Accura in 45 or 50. I have on of each and both put down whitetail and black bear just as fast as the other.

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from Christopher Spangler wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

I have had serveral, the one I settled on was the cva wolf. It was inexpensive and is a break open. I can remove the primer by hand, nothing gets into the primer area since it closed. The most important feature for me was cleaning, with a break open style and removable breech it is easy to clean and I don't have to take apart half the gun like you do with inlines. I have a scope on mine but the open sights are true glo and amazing. I no joke can group 1 at 100 yards when using my sled. Not bad performance outa a gun that is readi pak'd for less then 200.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

Think I'd go with the T/C Omega. Just my opinion!

Bubba

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from VT wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

I think im going with the T/C Encore.

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

I have had no luck with the T/C products. My CVA Optima Pro shoots great and I have killed several deer with it, and I hear the CVA Accura is an outstanding firearm.

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

I was at my Buddy's sport shop today and he had 6 new T/C Encore muzzleloaders that the hammer would not cock. He called the company and they said there was a problem and to return them to fix it. He also told me the rumor around the sporting goods business is that T/C may be on the verge of bankruptcy. That dosen't really surprise me.

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

sarge,
are these problems only occuring in their new products? i have at T/C that is probably 4 years old, i havent had any issues with it....yet.

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

As far as I know the problem is only with the new guns.

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from chuckles wrote 3 years 17 weeks ago

I am a fan of the CVA Optima Elite but I think you have to get an Apex now to get centerfire/muzzleloader interchangeability. I have an Optima Pro as well. Both are accurate and have never failed to go off. It gets a little chilly here in MN too.
Anyway for the price I think you get a lot of value with the CVA products. Happy hunting!
Oh, by the way I also think it is worth trying Blackhorn 209 if you are willing to go the loose powder route. I have been impressed with the consistency and power plus no crud ring.

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from buckshot89 wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

gents, i like all of the muzzleloaders that have been named, however i carry none of these. i carry a rossi 50 cal muzzleloader. she breaks open to place the primer and i've never had any problems with her freezing shut during ohio's muzzleloader season; there is generally a good foot of snow on the ground most of the time. she is also a tack driver...
good hunting gents.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

I have a T/C Omega as well. I've hunted in the snow and 0-10 degrees many times during the late muzleloader season in Iowa. The seal around the primer is very good and it always goes bang. No 54 caliber though.

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